A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Elain Sees the Future and Tamlin Gets Muted, Pt 2
n Part 2 of A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Nesta and Elain struggle with what the Cauldron did to them while Feyre, Rhysand, Cassian, Azriel, Amren, and Lucien prepare for Hybern’s war and discover Elain may be seeing the future. Then the High Lords finally get into one room, Tamlin immediately chooses verbal violence, Nesta finds her voice, and Rhysand decides the easiest solution is apparently just muting the asshole.
Spoiler Warning
Heads up, confessors: this is a SPOILER-HEAVY episode.
We’re deep into A Court of Wings and Ruin, covering Nesta and Elain after the Cauldron, the attack on the library, Lucien trying to help his mate, Hybern making moves, and the absolute shit show that is the High Lords meeting.
If you’re not caught up, leave now before Elain predicts your arrival and Tamlin ruins dinner.
The Book
- Title: A Court of Wings and Ruin
- Series: Book 3 of the A Court of Thorns and Roses series
- Author: Sarah J. Maas
- Spice / Heat: Very little actual spice, but Tamlin manages to weaponize Feyre’s sex life during a diplomatic meeting because apparently dignity was not invited
- Tropes: Mates, found family, reluctant allies, prophecy, trauma recovery, magical powers, sister relationships, political alliances, impending war, court politics
The Confession
Everybody wants Nesta and Elain to become useful pieces in a coming war, but neither sister is remotely ready to cooperate on anyone else’s timeline.
Then Elain’s strange ramblings stop looking like trauma-induced nonsense and start looking a whole lot more like warnings.
Meanwhile, Nesta begins finding purpose, Lucien tries to figure out where he belongs, and Feyre continues discovering that being High Lady sometimes means telling extremely powerful males to sit the fuck down.
Keywords: A Court of Wings and Ruin, ACOWAR, ACOTAR, Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Archeron, Nesta Archeron, Elain Archeron, Rhysand, Lucien, Azriel, Cassian, Amren, Tamlin, High Lords meeting, Hybern, Night Court, fantasy romance, romantasy, BookTok, Paperback Confessions
The Pour
- Cocktail: Seer’s Sangria — fruity, suspicious, and apparently knows what happens before you do
- Alternate drink: High Lord Old Fashioned — something strong enough to survive one dinner with Tamlin
- Non-alcoholic option: Blackberry sparkling tea for a civilized gathering nobody actually manages to keep civilized
Just the Tip
What happens when everyone around you decides your pain needs to become useful?
Nesta refuses to hand over her story just because the coming war might benefit from it, while Elain spends much of the episode being treated like something is wrong with her until Azriel finally gives language to what she is experiencing.
There is a difference between helping someone understand what happened to them and demanding they perform their trauma for everybody else.
What We Get Into
- Lucien meeting a deeply traumatized Elain
- Nesta as Elain’s angry emotional-support Doberman
- Amren giving Nesta something resembling purpose
- Feyre learning to fly with Azriel
- Why everybody loves the quiet Shadowsinger
- Rhysand’s sanctuary for abused priestesses
- Nesta and Feyre finally having a softer sister moment
- Elain talking in increasingly ominous riddles
- Hybern’s ravens attacking the library
- Feyre making another terrifying bargain
- Azriel realizing Elain is a Seer
- Lucien stepping up to help his mate
- Hybern attacking the Summer Court
- Tamlin turning the High Lords meeting into Jerry Springer: Prythian Edition
- Nesta finally telling her story
Favorite Chaos Moments
- G-Rex: “Nesta is basically Elain’s angry emotional support Doberman because she will beat the fuck out of people to protect her sister.”
- G-Rex: “Goddamn, if anybody talked about me and I’m in the same fucking room, I’m the size of a garden gnome, I am still going to fucking take you out.”
- Dirty Skittles: “It’s like when you have something in your tooth, and nobody tells you.”
- Dirty Skittles: “Shut up, you little bitch.”
- Nacho: “I don’t give a fuck who or what you are. We’re gonna have a conversation, and it’s gonna be on my dime, okay?”
- Nacho: “He’s being the stereotype. Tamlin is literally the stereotype, the toxic stereotype of what a man is meant to be.”
Our First Impressions
G-Rex sees Nesta’s anger as tied to protecting Elain and starts appreciating Lucien more once he steps up and asks how he can help. Tamlin, however, continues to earn absolutely none of her patience.
Dirty Skittles is still struggling with Nesta’s prickliness but starts seeing more underneath it, especially through her connection with Amren and her eventual willingness to speak at the High Lords meeting. She is also increasingly fascinated by Lucien’s place within the Night Court and whether he can actually build a life there.
Nacho sees Amren as giving Nesta something she desperately needs: purpose. They also dig into Tamlin as a toxic stereotype of masculinity and question the dynamics of leadership in the Night Court, especially how much authority Feyre is increasingly claiming for herself.
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00:00 - Does Lucien Actually Want Elain?
02:36 - Nesta the Emotional Support Doberman
05:36 - What Did the Cauldron Do to the Sisters?
06:16 - Amren Takes Nesta Under Her Wing
09:07 - Azriel Teaches Feyre to Fly
10:51 - Rhysand’s Sanctuary in the Library
12:12 - Nesta and Feyre Finally Talk
13:25 - Elain’s “Crazy” Predictions Start Making Sense
14:22 - Hybern’s Ravens Attack the Library
15:34 - Feyre Makes Another Terrifying Bargain
17:51 - Elain Is a Seer
19:23 - Be a Better Man, Tamlin
21:37 - Lucien Finally Steps Up
23:37 - Hybern Attacks the Summer Court
25:24 - The High Lords Meeting Is a Fucking Shit Show
27:28 - Rhysand Mutes Tamlin
28:29 - Nesta Finally Tells Her Story
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The war is coming, and Feyre has a whole lot more to worry about than
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fighting. With the courts divided, alliances uncertain,
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and Hybern looming, she'll have to convince them all to stand together
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or face the war alone. Welcome to episode 2 of our
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coverage of A Court of Wings and Ruin.
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I wish that we could hear what his inner dialogue is in that moment because
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I'm curious, like, how does he actually feel about her? And I
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just don't know that Lucien is— is he actually attracted to
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Elain, or is he just like, oh, so you're my mate, I gotta make this
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work? I don't think Feyre was initially
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attracted to Rhys at all.
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Okay, what about you, G? I think there was a little bit,
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you know, he was kind of eye candy for her, but not
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like a strong pull because she was still trying to get back to
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Tamlin. Yeah, maybe you're right. I remember her
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seeing him for the first time saying, this is the most handsome man I've ever
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seen. Yes. And I think she was curious, maybe.
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Yeah, I've seen plenty of handsome, beautiful people in my life. Okay,
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now we're comparing reality with the book, whatever.
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Maybe not such a good idea, but just because
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I find somebody
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beautiful or handsome does not mean that I have
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feelings for them. I
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guess in my fantasy of fantasies, I am Feyre and I see Rhysand and
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I want you, you want me from the jump. Let's just— Oh, you're first
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person in your brain? Yeah.
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Are you not? When you read it, are you not Feyre?
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No, I'm watching it.
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Interesting. Maybe there's something wrong with me. There's— I don't
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think there is. I think everybody takes in
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stuff in the way they're meant to take it in, right? Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. No, I watch it in my brain while I'm reading it.
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It's like watching a movie. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm
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also yelling at the book too. I'm like, for the love of Jesus,
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really? Right. I thought it was really interesting that
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we— well, I was annoyed. I was 100% annoyed with
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us now seeing Nesta and Elain. since coming out of the Cauldron.
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Like, this is Feyre's first time seeing them. Like, Nesta is still a fucking
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bitch. Yeah. I'm gonna be honest, it took
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until almost— well, the next book for
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me to have any sort of appreciation for Nesta.
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She fucking was like nails on a chalkboard for me throughout the entire
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series until that book. And so I hated how
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annoying and bitchy she was, and like
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Just such a fucking prickly-ass pear. But super
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protective of Elaine. And so,
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like, this is how I see Nesta. Nesta is basically Elaine's
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angry emotional support Doberman because
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she will beat the fuck out of people to protect her sister
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because she sees how broken she is and how
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being put into the cauldron just really fucked her up.
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Yeah, I'm torn on it because I hate— I fucking hated
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Nesta. I loved though hearing that when she went into the
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cauldron, she took more than it was willing to give her. I loved
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that. That's the type of spite that I love. Um, so
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we get to see Nesta being a little bitch. Uh, we see Elayne, God
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bless her. She's traumatized. She's barely
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speaking. Oh my God, the whining about the man. I'm supposed to I don't
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want to be married.
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Yeah, yeah, she just begs to go home like the whole
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time. I'm like, come on, everybody's like all mad about Nesta, and I'm
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like, how are we not mad about Elayne? Elayne is just a
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big whiny baby. Yeah, fair,
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fair, fair. Again, I am curious of Lucien's like
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inner dialogue seeing that version of Elayne. Like,
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that's your mate and you come back and she's like basically catatonic, like not eating,
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and then about a
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wedding or a man that she's supposed to marry. Yeah,
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I guess he still is casting strays. He literally is.
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Literally. Poor bastard. But also the patience.
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He seems so patient with it, and like, I just felt so bad for him.
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I also just felt like it was so cringy because he's just there in like
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his dirty-ass clothes. He's just trying to see his mate for the first time, and
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he's like Covered in whatever the fuck, you know.
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He's captured along the travel, and she's just
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like, "I don't give a fuck you're here." She doesn't even register that he's her
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mate. There's not even like a oh an acknowledgment. Yeah.
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She's like la la la in her own. Where the fuck am
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I? Give me the fuck out of this world. Send me back.
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I can't wait to see what she's releasing in October to find out.
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Like, who's next, right? Like, whose story is
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coming next? Yeah, they're, they're discussing
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what's going to happen because, uh, the King of Hybern is going to attack. And
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so there's all this strategy going around. Um, it kind of becomes
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clear that they're also trying to figure out what powers, if
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any, do Nesta and Elain have that can help sort of prepare for
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this war. And neither of them seem to be able
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or willing to discuss if they feel anything differently, do they
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have any powers. Nesta's like, don't fucking talk to me.
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How dare you put me into this conversation? Like, she's just
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like fucking miserable and mad. And Elain
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is like, I can't even make sense of anything you're saying.
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But what I loved is how Amren, the blood drinker,
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and Nesta were like, you know,
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sitting in and training and, um, you know,
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trying to figure out like if Nesta's powers could help
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figure out where the weaknesses was in the, in the
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wall. And, you know, I, I just
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remember how pissed off Nesta was. She, she is
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not a happy person. Like, that girl needs to get laid.
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In the worst fucking way. To that point, I think that the
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dynamic between Amren and Nesta
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starts to build and become something.
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And I remember, well, now in hindsight, I
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think when Nesta sees Amren and asks her, why are your eyes glowing?
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Like, what are you? And like starts asking her these questions. Yeah, Nesta's just like,
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I don't give a fuck who or what you are. We're gonna have a conversation
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and it's gonna be on my dime, okay? Yeah, she's like, I need you to
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answer why I'm distracted by your eyes. Like, what is happening? What kind of creature
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are you? Right, you owe me an explanation.
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From a thousands-year-old being.
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Yeah, and everybody's like, oh my God, she's asking the questions we all
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want to know but are too afraid to ask. Um, how
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shitty is that? They've been friends for how many years?
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How many centuries they've been friends and everybody's all like, I'm
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too scared to ask? It's like,
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it's like when you have something in your tooth and nobody tells you.
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And then that one person goes, you got something in your teeth. And you're like,
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I've been here for like 30 minutes smiling and nobody said shit. Yeah. Nobody
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said anything about the freaking spinach or the kale
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in between my teeth, assholes.
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But Amren, I think, respects Nesta for it. She's like, yeah,
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you know, okay. I think Amren gives her purpose.
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Mm-hmm. And that's what she needs.
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Yeah, there's similarity there. And I think Amren calls it out, like, we're more alike
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than you know. I'm hoping we
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figure out what that like is, because I still, after even reading this book like
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a third time, still don't know what they have in
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common. But there's something. There's something
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there. Amren takes Nesta under her wing after that
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conversation and starts to I don't remember how
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they decided how they would train her because she wasn't very forthcoming with
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any sort of special power, but Amren's like, we're gonna, we're
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gonna train your mind. Well,
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I think it's because, well,
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you took a piece of the cauldron, so maybe you can
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feel the cauldron or whatever. Right. So Nesta starts training
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with Amren. Feyre starts training more with
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Cassian and, um, Azriel because—
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She wants to learn to fly. She wants to learn how to fly, and
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Azriel is the teacher because he learned how to fly when he was an
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adult, where Rhysand and Cassian learned how to fly as children.
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So Azriel's like, I think I got you, girl. I can, I can train you
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better than these two can. And I love, uh, I do
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love Azriel. Yeah, so much. So,
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so much. He's got a good heart, right? Like, he
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just wants to be a helper and, you know, and be a
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better person. That's what I like about him. I think he's just
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quiet and people put all their assumptions
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on who they think he is and what he does,
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and, and he just lets them believe whatever they
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believe, but I don't think he's probably a nice being.
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I think he's probably an asshole. You do? But he's
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an— but I think he's— well, yeah, but I think he's
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asshole for like with purpose
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and what he believes is good, which is his family. Yeah, I
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hope that one of these next 2 books is Azriel. I do.
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I just— I want to know his story. Like, I feel like he's the quiet
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guy that everybody tells their bullshit to. I think he's just, like, capturing information.
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Exactly. Exactly. Like, just being quiet and letting
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everybody else around you put their assumptions and
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their feelings of what they need from him,
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and so that he doesn't have to do so much work, they just
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assume all these things. In this book, Rhysand takes Feyre and
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introduces her to the library and all the priestesses that
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work in that library. And that's— When she learns that he's given
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them sanctuary, they're basically women who've survived being
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abused and now they have this safe space and they're free to
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live there and, and free of harm. And, um,
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I think that made me love Rhysand more. I feel bad because
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that library, as safe and sound as it is,
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sees some shit in this book. Skittles. Have you
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read Throne of Glass yet? No. I
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remember I started
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and I got to Crown of
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Midnight. So what is that, book 3?
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I know, I've heard. I have heard that there are like
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parallels. Why? What am I missing? No, you
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can't. You can't. I have to read it. I can't. We cannot even
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until you have read the books. I cannot even— and
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anybody who's read the books knows exactly where I'm kind of going with this whole
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thing. I
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can't. But needless to say,
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we can say things like there's something really scary at the
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bottom in the middle of the library. Yes. Something
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so scary that Cassian loses his
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shit being anywhere near there.
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We can say that in the library, when
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Nesta and Feyre go
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in together, it's like a nice—
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not nice, but not toxic interaction between the
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2 sisters, right? Mm-hmm. Like, I
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think this is where Nesta tells Feyre, I didn't—
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I didn't know you couldn't read and you couldn't write. Yeah. I didn't
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know where your education ended. I—
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and then I think she even apologizes to Feyre. Like, I didn't know. I'm
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sorry. Yeah. She's like, why didn't you tell us? I would've helped you, kind of
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a thing. Right. Right. So you
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see a side of Nesta that I
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believe was like, human.
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Yeah. Right? Like a kind, caring
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human in her own right. Yeah.
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And that was exciting for me. Oh. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think I'm all about sisters finding a way to,
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like, communicate more effectively.
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But then Hybern attacks again while they're in the
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library. Before though, Elaine, people, because she's so fucking
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like out of it, she's also starting to talk in riddles and say
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shit that like nobody really understands. And so
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leading up into what we're about to talk about in that library, Elaine says
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something that like a white raven and a black raven are gonna
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visit. She also talks about how she can hear some lady screaming or crying or
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something. So people just think Elaine's fucking crazy. Nobody
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really understands what she's saying or what she's talking about.
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Lucian tries to connect with her through the bond to see if he can figure
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out what the fuck she's talking about or what's wrong with her. I like that
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everybody just assumes there's something wrong with her. You know, she's talking like a crazy
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person. They hire like a healer. I think Nesta's like, yes, let's get a
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healer so that she can figure out because clearly something is wrong
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and Here we are. Now Nesta and Feyre are in
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the library, and lo and behold what happens.
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Feyre and Nesta, they feel basically the world shake.
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2 of Hybern's ravens attack Feyre and Nesta in the library.
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They also blow feybane
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to mute the magic. So Feyre can't reach out
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to Rhysand to say, oh my gosh, we're being attacked, here's where we are. She
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can't even communicate with him.
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Nesta's like, whatever you say, Feyre, uh, I'm gonna follow your
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lead. Because she's like, I got no fucking clue what I'm doing because I've been
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constantly refusing to train with you and Cassian
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since day one. But whatever, it's fine. Right, right.
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Feyre says, let's run, we gotta run. And Feyre makes a decision.
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Instead of like trying to escape out, they're gonna go deeper into
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The pits of this library, which is where that interesting
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creature lives. Farrah's like, fuck it, I ain't got shit to lose, let's just
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do this. And then it's the worm all over again.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Going deeper into that
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place. That's where Farrah strikes a bargain with this thing. She's searching around in the
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dark, she can't see shit. She's feeling, feeling, feeling, trying to
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find the thing that's down there. And once she finds it, she
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makes a deal with it. If you help me kill these men,
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um, I'll give you what you want. And what does that thing ask for? Company.
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Yeah, I just want some company. I want to talk about, you know, the world.
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I want to have a friend. Yeah, a little tea time down here
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in the pits of hell. And so Farrah makes the deal,
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gets another tattoo because she's made a bargain with this thing.
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Yes. And it helps him. It attacks
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the 2 ravens from Hybern and fucking
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slaughters them. It leaves them alive, just alive
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enough for Rhys to go in when they finally get rescued or
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whatever, to go in and just like melt
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their tiny little bird brains. I totally forgot, before
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she makes that deal, she makes a way for Nesta to
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escape. Nesta runs into Cassian first and
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Feyre in the hole, whatever the fuck. So Cassian is like,
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shit, all right, let me go get my high lady. Even though he's afraid of
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what's down there, um, he communicates with Rhysand. That's how they all kind of come
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to be. Unfortunately, this library is like torn to shreds, right? Like
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these priestesses are no longer feeling safe and Rhysand is
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pissed. You have, you know, harmed my people.
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You have, uh, cross my wards into my land and you try to kill my
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mate. So he finds the guards, he basically tortures them and
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gets what he needs out of them, and then enjoys killing them because they
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fucked around and found out. Yeah, and like, uh, the soldiers
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are— were really coming after Nesta because she stole something
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from the cauldron. Oh yeah, whatever the fuck she stole,
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because that girl, you know what, you're gonna put me in this motherfucker, I'm
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taking more out with me than I came in with. She takes
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it with her teeth. She bites down,
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rips it out of the cauldron. Keep
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doing that and you're gonna be visiting the dentist, okay? They're
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wood anyways. Okay,
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George, side note, like Elaine has been like— people think she's fucking
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crazy. And as Feyre is getting out, Feyre starts to kind of put it all
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together, like, oh my God, Elaine saw this. Elaine tried to warn us about this.
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Elaine, Elaine, Elaine. And the feather catching fire or
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something too. Yes. When Feyre gets back, that's when it's
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said by, um, Azriel, you're a
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Seer. And he like kneels down before Elain and
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he gives a name to the thing she's feeling. And she's like,
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you know. Right. And finally makes eye contact with somebody.
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Yeah. It's like officially getting the diagnosis that you've been searching for.
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And you're like, oh, I knew it. And
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isn't the whole reason that they went to the library is
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because they're trying to find ways to, um,
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what's that word, seal the holes? See the hole— see the holes in the
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wall so that the Hiberian can't get into like,
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uh, the human world? Yeah, they're all researching.
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Yeah, Lucian, I think during that moment where Azrael gives
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Elaine a name to what she is, he tries to help. So I think
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he volunteers to go and find that queen that Elaine keeps hearing.
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Yeah, the fiery phoenix lady. He's like,
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fuck, I gotta help out, you know? He's committed now. He needs to help his
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mate, which I thought was nice. I'm like, look at Lucien
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doing something, stepping up. Oh, being a man.
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So I had this thought I was listening to one of the
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episodes, and so I'm gonna, I'm gonna squirrel
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real hard, real right here. Okay.
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And G kept saying about Tamlin,
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be a fucking man, dude. Just, just grow a pair of
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balls and be a man.
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all I could think of Was
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he's being a man. He's being the stereotype.
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Tamlin is literally the stereotype, the toxic
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stereotype of what a man is meant to be.
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He doesn't listen, doesn't care,
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doesn't acknowledge, doesn't engage. You're just there.
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To serve me, to be me, and I don't know why that
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hit me so hard, but I just—I was like, yeah,
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he's—he's doing what you're saying. He is being a man,
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right? How about be a better man? Okay,
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don't be the stereotypical asshole male. Be a friend.
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Like, be a friend to your mate because you know
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when skills night like. interview guests on our other
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podcast, Shit That Goes On in Our Head. We have like a husband and wife
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team on there. The thing that we notice immediately
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is the friendship, right? That's, to me, that's more powerful
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than love. That's friendship. I don't know, I want him to be
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more of a friend and less of a fucking asshole.
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Yeah. Because he's not. He's a fucking jealous
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motherfucking dick. Yeah, yeah, he's a,
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he's a total stereotype. He's a total stereotype. And maybe that's
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the, the purpose of that character
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from the author. I don't know. But just like, that's
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what he's doing. He's being that terrible
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stereotype. And you're right, friendship is
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ridiculously important. And so I think that's why Lucien
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decided to step up. and be like, hey, how
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can I help with this fight? Right? Mm-hmm.
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Like, he, he's still kind of healing up from all the shit that they
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went through when they were trying to get back from Spring Court
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back to the Night Court. But he's like, I can do this.
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You know, I, I was trained as a foot soldier. I have a
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general idea of where I need to go. I know how to survive in the
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woods. Whereas, you know, Feyre, not so much.
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She's, she's the High Lady. But, but
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Lucien was like, I can do this. Like, I want to save my mate. I
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want to save my, my chosen family. Because now he's part
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of this chosen family because his own family's a fucking piece of shit. Do you
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think he's buying into it though? Do you think he's drinking the Kool-Aid? I don't
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know. I think he's like testing it out.
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Well, he— I remember he is like taken aback by like there's laughter.
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Yeah, yeah. He's like, there's people laughing here. And so
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I think he appreciates maybe Rhysand.
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Yeah, like, I think he, he learns to appreciate Rhysand and everything that he had
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been protecting and, and what the Night Court is. I think he develops
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like a respect and appreciation. But, um, I was just thinking as
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you guys were talking, in my mind there are similarities between Lucien and
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Azriel. I feel like
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Lucien has the ear of a lot of people in different lands. He kind of
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knows what's going on. He's quiet, he's listening, he's sort of
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gathering resources. And Azriel does the same,
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just on a different, darker level.
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Yeah. Yeah. And then the book really—
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now we're getting into the the depths of the book, right?
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Of like Highburian War and
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Spring Court and Tamlin and all this fuckery. Yeah,
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this is when shit starts to take a left because right after Lucien leaves,
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the Summer Court gets sabotaged.
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The King of Hybern, it's a trap, right? It's an illusion of
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him, the King of Hybern, but they get attacked and the
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king did it on purpose to see which other court would be the
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first to respond, and it's the Night Court. Rhysand goes
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to help the Summer Court. Because Amren's boyfriend sends
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a note to Amren, and Amren's like, no, y'all got to go.
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Y'all got to go. I'll stay here and babysit the whiny babies and
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protect Velaris, but y'all got to go.
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I think I have— I have minimal
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patience for the whiny babies. Namely,
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Nest is a bit of a whiny baby, and Elayne is a bit of a
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whiny baby. Yeah. I
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think Rhys kind of knows there's a bit of a setup because he starts
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to hunt down this, this source of like—
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there's something that's dampening everybody's power and he's trying to track it down, um,
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instead of like fighting. Like, he's like, there's something else going on, something is wrong.
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I love in that scene that he shares what he sees with Feyre, so she's
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there in real time. Yo, Feyre is a bit of like fuck around,
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find out in this book for sure. Because she's like, Rhys, just kill him. Stop
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fucking around. Let's stop asking questions. We're not here for a conversation. Kill the guy
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already. Like, get it over with. Right? And, and he's like, I
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don't have what I need yet. Give me a minute. He's like, I fucking
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said now. Yeah.
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That's when it comes out that it's all an illusion. He was
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never really there. Feyre's like, what the fuck?
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Same with Rhys. He's like, I got what I needed though. We'll move on.
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Then they have the meeting of all the High Lords, right?
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And that was a fucking shit show. Oh my God. Lucien's dad.
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Mic drop on this moment. When I realized what was happening, I was like, oh.
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Rhysand calls a meeting with all the High Lords and they
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need a neutral place to do it. So they all kind of meet there. But
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this is also like, besides the Lucien's dad shit, is
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one of my fucking favorite scenes, although I was super
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pissed, is when Tamlin shows up and his
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entrance like he does. He shows up late and he's really fucking loud and he's
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just like, like, I imagine him like kicking open a door. Yeah.
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Sits down. And you're going to love me. Yeah. And he's a
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bitter-ass bitch. He's like, here's fucking
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Rhysand. And now Feyre, who is married to Rhysand, he's like, you always
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wanted to be a High Lady. And like, he tries to make it out like
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she's a gold digger and she's just there for the title. Some of them are
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really drinking up some of the High Lords. I
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just remember reading what Camlin was saying about
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Feyre when all the High Lords were meeting. He was
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just a fucking asshole. He sure was.
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Like, goddamn, if anybody talked about me and I'm in the same
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fucking room, I'm the size of a
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garden gnome, I am still going to fucking take you out. Oh
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yeah, I like that, uh, uh, some of the people
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there were like just eating popcorn. I imagine them just like, oh shit,
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yeah, we got somebody be spilling the tea.
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Yeah, they're like, we can't wait to see the drama. Um,
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but yeah, to your point, he's just like, oh, uh, he's just, he's
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just poking at her, poking at her, poking at her. Um,
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Rhysand's like being pretty patient, I think. I wish
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In my opinion, that Rhysand would have reacted quicker. Um, he
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only reacts— I think it's like when Tamlin starts to talk about like, have you
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ever noticed that little sound she makes right before she comes? Or whatever. And
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instead of Rhysand like punching this guy, he mutes
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him. So, and Rhysand again, hands in the pocket, just
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like, eh, it's not a problem. You're done. Mutes the shit out of Tamlin. And
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Tamlin's like, what the fuck? I can't even talk.
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It's the best. Shut up, you little
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bitch. And I like how people are like, oh, fucking get over it,
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Tamlin. At some point they lose their patience with this guy because he's just being
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a little bitch. When I read that scene, think that at any minute now something
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is going to happen, and I swore Tamlin was going to be the cause of
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it. Like, I was like, Tamlin is here, they're all there. I mean, it made
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sense for there to be an attack when all of the High Lords are together,
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and I just for whatever reason thought like Tamlin was gonna sabotage this meeting.
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I just thought for sure, like, Tamlin was gonna, like, march in and
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just fuck it up for everybody. But, you know, Rhys,
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Mr. Hands in My Pocket, I'm gonna shut your motherfucking mouth up, okay? Because you
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know what? We're all tired of hearing your shit. So
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you can talk all you want to, but the only person that's gonna hear what's
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coming out of your mouth is you. Some other good things happen
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from this fucking dinner. There is somebody who, uh,
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creates, like, an antidote. so that when the war happens,
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those powers can't be dampened. You know, they're willing to share it with anybody who's
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going to fight the war against the King of Hybern. Nesta, God bless
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her heart, finally talks because this is going to be a war against the human
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realm too. Yeah, because they've been trying to get her
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to tell people about what she went
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through when they were in Hybern, her and Elayne. And she
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refuses, refuses, refuses, refuses, refuses over and
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over and over again. I'm not telling my story. It's mine. And you can't
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have it. This is not my war. This is not my
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problem. Yeah. And then she finally does.
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And then they're all just sort of like, oh, okay.
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Yeah. And shares what she knows the king was
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thinking and what his plans are too, because she has a piece of that. So
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she's sharing all of this shit. And I was happy. I'm like, finally, this
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fucking bitch talks. Like, you know, give me something.
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And then there is like some crazy shit that also goes down during this dinner.
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When Eris started talking about what
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he had done to Morpheus, and Azriel's like, I'mma fucking kill this bitch.
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And Feyre's the one who he listens to.
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And there's like— Rhys has got— okay,
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so this is a little bit
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similar to what she does in
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the Spring Court. She intentionally
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does it in the Spring Court, but they let her do it in the
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Night Court where she's just
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the one— maybe not controlling,
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or maybe manipulating a situation, but she's definitely the
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one Bossing bitches
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around, and
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I I can't get a read on Reese. I can't like is he
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chill with it and he wants to encourage it, which I think he does. But
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also there's got to be a part of him that's like
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why what what just happened there? Like he's
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following her now. You know what I mean? I
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don't know. There's just something there for me. Yeah. And I think I wondered in
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that scene, like, how much of it was planned by Rhys.
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Like, like, I definitely think Azriel lost his shit, but I think he had permission
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to. Yeah. Like, and I just remember wondering, is
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this staged by Rhys?