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A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Wrecks the Spring Court From the Inside, Pt 1

A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Wrecks the Spring Court From the Inside, Pt 1
A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Wrecks the Spring Court From the Inside, Pt 1
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A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Wrecks the Spring Court From the Inside, Pt 1

Feyre is back in the Spring Court in *A Court of Wings and Ruin* by Sarah J. Maas, but this time she is undercover, secretly communicating with Rhysand, manipulating Tamlin and Ianthe, and quietly tearing the whole damn place apart from the inside. We get into Lucien’s complicated loyalties, Tamlin’s leadership failures, Ianthe’s predatory bullshit, the Hybern twins, Feyre’s High Lady reveal, and Cassian and Azriel arriving like two extremely dramatic bat-shaped rescue missiles.

Spoiler Warning

Heads up, confessors: this is a SPOILER-HEAVY episode.

We’re starting A Court of Wings and Ruin with Feyre undercover in the Spring Court, sabotaging Tamlin, fucking with Ianthe, escaping with Lucien, and eventually making her way back toward the Night Court.

If you’re not caught up, retreat now before Feyre psychologically dismantles your entire court too.

The Book
  • Title: A Court of Wings and Ruin
  • Series: Book 3 of the A Court of Thorns and Roses series
  • Author: Sarah J. Maas
  • Spice / Heat: No major spice scene here, but we do get relationship speculation, predatory Ianthe, and one unfortunately worded “fisting in” rescue description
  • Tropes: Undercover heroine, revenge, political sabotage, mates, morally gray manipulation, court politics, found family, betrayal, magical powers
The Confession

Feyre returns to the Spring Court, playing the broken little bride Tamlin desperately wants to believe he rescued.

Unfortunately for him, she came home with a plan.

This episode is basically Feyre finding every crack in Tamlin’s court, sliding a chisel into it, and smiling sweetly while the whole damn thing starts breaking apart.

Keywords: A Court of Wings and Ruin, ACOWAR, ACOTAR, Sarah J. Maas, Feyre Archeron, Tamlin, Lucien, Rhysand, Ianthe, Spring Court, Night Court, High Lady, Cassian, Azriel, Hybern, fantasy romance, romantasy, BookTok, Paperback Confessions

The Pour
  • Cocktail: Spring Court Poison Apple — because apparently even the fucking fruit can’t be trusted
  • Alternate drink: Blackberry whiskey smash for Feyre’s smash-the-patriarchy sabotage era
  • Non-alcoholic option: Sparkling apple lemonade with enough dramatic garnish to make Ianthe furious
Just the Tip

Can someone have been a decent leader once and still become a dangerous one when fear, ego, trauma, and terrible advice take over?

G-Rex is firmly in the “Tamlin is a shitty leader” camp, while Nacho questions whether he was always this bad or whether Feyre simply found the existing crack and hammered it wide open.

Either way, believing Ianthe over the people who keep sacrificing themselves for you doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

What We Get Into
  • Rhysand’s surprise battlefield POV
  • Feyre playing the perfect grateful Spring Court bride
  • Secret messages to Rhysand
  • Lucien realizing Feyre is full of shit
  • Weaponizing everyone’s expectations of women
  • Feyre stealing Ianthe’s magical spotlight
  • Tamlin’s jealousy and exploding temper
  • The guards turning against their High Lord
  • Ianthe preying on Lucien
  • Feyre absolutely wrecking Ianthe’s hand
  • The Hybern twins poisoning Feyre’s magic
  • Lucien escaping the Spring Court with Feyre
  • Feyre revealing she is High Lady
  • Cassian and Azriel making one hell of an entrance
Favorite Chaos Moments
  • G-Rex: “Who the fuck does that? Like a jealous motherfucker, you know, jealous and controlling. Like, you’re an asshole.”
  • G-Rex: “This is not the guy you play follow the leader with, okay? Unless you also want to be a shitty person.”
  • Dirty Skittles: “Basically, Feyre collected side quests like they were Pokémon.”
  • Dirty Skittles: “She’s gonna destroy him from the inside out. And I loved that shit.”
  • Nacho: “Don’t underestimate the uterus, man. Just don’t.”
  • Nacho: “I’m reading this book, and that is just not the word to use right there.”
Our First Impressions

G-Rex has absolutely no patience left for Tamlin’s jealous, controlling bullshit and sees his treatment of Feyre, Lucien, and his own soldiers as proof that he is failing as both partner and leader.

Dirty Skittles is delighted by Feyre’s psychological warfare and especially loves watching her exploit Tamlin and Ianthe’s weaknesses while gathering information for the Night Court.

Nacho is fascinated by just how calculated Feyre has become, but they also push back on the idea that Tamlin was always a terrible leader and question how much fear, history, and Ianthe’s influence contributed to his collapse. They remain deeply suspicious of Lucien’s motivations too.

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Feyre is finally back with the Night Court, and Lucien has made it there with one very specific goal: seeing Elain.

Unfortunately for him, the hosts have approximately eight thousand questions about what the fuck his loyalties actually are.

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00:00 - Previously in Prythian: Feyre’s Fuck Around Era

02:48 - Rhysand’s Battlefield Prologue

04:48 - Feyre Goes Undercover in the Spring Court

08:01 - Lucien Knows Something Is Off

10:10 - Feyre Weaponizes the Dumb-Woman Routine

11:26 - Feyre Steals Ianthe’s Holy Spotlight

14:13 - Psychological Warfare, Nightgowns, and Jealous Tamlin

17:41 - Is Tamlin Actually a Shitty Leader?

19:47 - Feyre’s Mission Starts Paying Off

20:40 - Ianthe Preys on Lucien

24:54 - Lucien Chooses to Leave

25:14 - The Hybern Twins Poison Feyre’s Magic

27:23 - Running Through the Autumn Court

28:21 - Feyre Reveals She Is High Lady

31:14 - What the Fuck Does Lucien Actually Want?

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We survived A Court of Mist and Fury, but apparently we weren't done

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suffering. Get ready for part 1 of our

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coverage of A Court of Wings and Ruin. Buckle up because the

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next chapter starts now.

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Welcome to Paperback Confessions. Previously,

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Feyre was traumatized, starving, miserable, and about to marry Tamlin because

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apparently nobody in the Prythian believes in therapy or calling off a wedding.

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Then Rhysand crashes the wedding, drags her to the Night Court, and suddenly

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Feyre had Velaris, a found family, a personality, and some

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actual friends. She trained, she healed, she discovered her powers,

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she learned to read, she flew, and she flirted.

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We got to the Summer Court and the Book of Breathings, Mortal Queens, a Bone

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Carver, the Weaver, the Court of Nightmares. Basically,

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Feyre collected side quests like They were Pokémon.

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That is epic!

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The war is coming. The cauldron is a problem. Nesta and Elain get made. Lucien

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gets a mate. Feyre gets a mate. Spoiler, it's Rhysand.

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Then Hybern attacks. Tamlin makes a deal with an enemy, and Feyre does what

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Feyre does best. She hunts. She goes back to the Spring

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Court pretending to be the broken little bride that Tamlin thought he rescued. Shh,

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she's actually the High Lady of the Night Court who is undercover,

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and she's bringing the chaos with her this time. So buckle up, confessors.

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The sisters are made, the cauldron is fucking pissed, the war is

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coming, and Feyre has officially entered her fuck around and find out era.

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Yeah. Welcome to A Court of Wings and Ruin.

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I will have to say, when I first read this

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series after— or the way that book 2 ends where

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she is

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Pretending that their bond has been broken and she is going

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back with Tamlin. I was pissed. I was like, what the

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fuck? Here we go again. I have to read

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about her. Maybe I thought she would fall back in love with Tamlin. I did.

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I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck? But I was pleased

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with how the book starts because,

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side note, This book has

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a prologue. And of the whole

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series, I think this is the first book where there's kind of

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a dual POV. This book starts with Rhysand remembering

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a war. And so you're in Rhysand's head, like you're hearing his thoughts,

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you're seeing what he sees. He's basically on this field.

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And I, for a second, thought, oh my God, is this whole book going to

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be in Rhysand's POV because Feyre is not there now. Like, are we only gonna

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hear such an asshole? I think I just scrolled right

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past the fucking prologue. I don't know that I've ever read this fucking prologue.

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Whoopsie. You know, I love your honesty though. Yeah, fuck

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it. Like, it's fine. Yeah, I don't— I only— it's a fucking prologue.

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I'm not— I'm here for the story. I'm not here for the previous. It's fine.

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Sorry, I got excited though. I was like, oh shit, are we gonna

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hear Should we tell them about this? Yeah. He's, he's

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basically on a battlefield and this is, you know, sometime in the past. It's not

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really clear to me, at least like timeline-wise, where,

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how long ago it was. Um, but it's obviously before he meets Feyre. I

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think it's before the wall is up and he is on this

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battlefield and he is searching amongst this,

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all these rotting corpses or dying people. And he is looking for

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Illyrian. warrior wings, and anytime he sees a soldier

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who has fallen and it's Illyrian, he pulls it— like, he rolls them over to

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see, is it Cassian or is it Azriel? So— Oh, I

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do have a memory of that. Okay, keep going. Yeah, so it's like

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just his thoughts of like what it's like to have fought this

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fight. How long were they fighting for? Where are his brothers? And it's just

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him searching, and then that's kind of it. You get like the sneak peek into

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Rhysand's brain. And I loved it. So that's how this

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book starts. I was super excited. Um, and then we pick up with

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Feyre. So Feyre is

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back at the Spring Court and

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she almost immediately sets the tone of like, this is all a lie.

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pretending to be the Feyre Tamlin knows. And she's

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painting these beautiful photos with like flowers and sunshine. Oh my God. Can I tell

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you, I imagine that she's painting like Crayola

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yellow sun with like a circle and then the lines, right?

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And then the stick figures.

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Like you'd see something out of a kindergarten or first grade

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classroom. When she was describing it, that's

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what I was imagining. I was like, bitch, you trippin'.

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So yeah, she's painting this shit. She knows it's a lie, but she's

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fitting this Look, right? She needs to be this

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character who is so grateful that Tamlin has rescued her

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because Rhysand is just a nightmare and she needed this and he's just a great

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High Lord. Um, but internally you

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hear her thoughts of how exactly she's planning on

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wrecking this guy's whole entire court. She's gonna destroy him from the

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inside out. And I loved that shit.

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Because he was an asshole. He like sold them all out.

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Like, what? Who the fuck does that? Oh, I'm sorry.

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Tamlin. Like a jealous motherfucker,

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you know, jealous and controlling. Like,

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you're an asshole. Like, it kind of blows my

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mind that he just believes her, right?

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Yeah, after spending the whole first book not believing a

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word she says or tells him or giving any of the words that she

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gives him any sort of acknowledgement or

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respect.

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Why all of a sudden is he now like, mm-hmm?

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Yeah. Yeah. He just believes her. He's like, of course. Of course she would want

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to be back. Of course everything she said is true. How could it not be?

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I'm amazing. I'm wonderful. I'm Tamlin. But she's there as a spy.

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That's her goal is to literally destroy his court from the inside out, but also

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gather intel to communicate with Rhysand. That is like a fun

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little thing, is that her and Rhysand can still communicate, but she does

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it sparingly because she doesn't want

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anybody to pick up on the fact that they're still very much bonded. And

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they're glamoured. Like, she glamours— she like maintains a glamour

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on her tattooed hand for like the first however many

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chapters. Yeah, remember she had the 2 tattoos,

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right? She had the bonded one and the married one. And so

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when she had to go back to Spring Court, she took off the

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branded— the bonded one, but kept the

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marriage one. And I thought that was really cool. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Because she couldn't get rid of the marriage one. She just glamours it so nobody

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knows. Yeah. I'm also curious what it looks like. Like, how would

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everybody know that that meant she was married? But it's just like

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Rhysand's wife or something.

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Hi, lady. Of the Night Court.

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Um, in glitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, how would they know?

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Giant scrolling font. It's fine. I

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think Lucien, at least my opinion is, he kind of knows something's up,

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you know? Oh yeah. Maybe it's his fun little eyeball. I don't

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know. He's like, he's kind of like, huh, sure,

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sure, you're back. Got it. But I also think he's like,

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fuck, I am mated to your sister. So like, whatever, whatever you need me

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to do, I'm here. Also, I think he just feels guilty for being a

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dick in the first place and only mindlessly following

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asshole. You think so? Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

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think it's a culmination. I think Lucien is so

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like— so my

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grandpa said one of his favorite things was, if you don't stand for

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something, you'll fall for anything. And so

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I think about that all the time when I'm thinking about Lucien. He just

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doesn't— when he stands, he stands for the wrong

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reasons. And all the rest of the

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time, he's just like, meh. But I mean—

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I think a little bit of that comes from the way that he grew up

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and his asshole dad and brothers and the shit that's happened to him.

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I feel like in some parts of the book, he doesn't He has a

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hard time finding his voice because he's afraid of the repercussions.

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I think in this book it becomes almost— you can almost

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feel how he's stuck between a rock and a hard place on it. I feel

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like he's torn between discovering

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himself differently or being like Tamlin's little bitch still. Like, I think he's still

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like, oh, my role here is at the Spring Court, but also I kind

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of have this mate in the Night Court. Like, I Like, where does he go?

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You know, he doesn't know what to do. Probably,

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uh, sick of catching strays too.

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I'm just saying, like, he goes through it

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and then, and then, oh my God, he just—

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I think he has more emotional, like, shit

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in this book than physical, where the last book that dude was getting his ass

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whooped every Second. Yeah. I think that Feyre,

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like, this was like, she loves this, right? Because she's fucking with

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Tamlin and fucking with him hard. Oh, what I,

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what I did think was a little bit different this time is Tamlin is kind

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of letting her in on more things, you know, like he's not

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locking her in the house this time. She's learning how to

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attack Tamlin using Lucien to get sort of Tamlin's

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jealousy to make him question. But she also starts to learn that

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They are, um, there are other players coming in that are

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helping Tamlin sort of prepare for this war. They're trying to figure out where are

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their weak spots in the Wall. So Feyre is able to sort of go

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with Tamlin and his army. So she's questioning everybody like, hey,

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what's going on? What are you guys doing? And they're just feeding her info because

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she's— Playing a dumb woman. Uh-huh. Exactly.

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Exactly. She's feeding into

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Their total paradigm of

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what they believe a woman should be. Hmm.

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And they, like, surprisingly, just as luck would have it, give her more information

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because of that. Yeah. And so she's like, oh, okay, cool.

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Yeah. Don't underestimate the uterus, man.

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Just don't. Mm-hmm. She's communicating it to Rhysand, so he

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kind of knows what One of my favorite scenes

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is she figures out that Ianthe, the predator,

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dumb bitch, is— She's such a fucking bitch.

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Is full of shit. A lot of what Ianthe does or pretends to be is

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just trash. So one of my favorite scenes when she comes back to the

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Spring Court— Flex on the

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spot. Feyre knows exactly where Ianthe's gonna wanna

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stand so that the sun comes behind her and looks like she's

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putting this light out and Feyre just fucking Real casually moves

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the marker a little bit. It was so epic.

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I was like, yes, you crazy bitch, get it, girl,

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because you need to teach this little

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angel wannabe a lesson. And all she

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does, Farrah just teaches lesson after lesson after lesson to Ianthe.

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And it makes me so happy. In her moving the

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marker, Ianthe is off center a little bit. So now

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instead of the sun shining on Ianthe, making it look like she has this glow,

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Feyre is able to get that glow out of her body.

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And of course, all of the soldiers and everybody's like, oh my God,

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oh my God, Feyre, what did you do? Yeah, because she like does something too

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with her magic where it's like sparkly and extra and whatever.

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The whole while being like, oh, me? Oh my gosh, look at this.

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Right. Wow, I can glow? No way.

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Must be a blessing. Hashtag blessings.

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Soldiers are like kneeling down, including Lucien, which Tamlin's like,

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what the fuck is going on? Because I, I don't even think Tamlin—

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even if that was true, right? Like, even if Feyre was blessed, I don't

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think Tamlin liked that. No, of course not. No.

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Yeah, because now she's more powerful than he is, and all she

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does is goad everyone around him

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into believing That he is the asshole.

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Oh, that he actually is. Like, are you fucking kidding?

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She's she's a fucking genius.

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The manipulation that and and the cojones

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that it takes to manipulate an entire like

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group of humans against one person does it. It can

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be quite empowering. However.

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She does it with such style and class

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that you're just like, I just want to be on this bitch's good side all

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the time. I never want to step a toe. Like,

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goals in life, right? Like, I do not want to.

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It was hot. It was hot. By that little thing, she publicly

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humiliates Iyanthe, and like, people

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question, is Iyanthe actually like holy? Like, is she

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blessed? I don't know. Another favorite psychological fucking

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torture, uh, that Feyre does is at some point in the

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night, um, she's wearing like a little nightgown or whatever.

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She says that she's gotta— she's having a nightmare or something,

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and then Lucien opens the door to like check on her, and

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she's just like, oh, poor me, I'm so sad, can I

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come in your room? And then she goes in the room, and then All of

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a sudden, fuckwad comes marching into the room and they're like

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scantily clad because it's the middle of the fucking night.

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He's comforting her and she's just like, oops.

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That was like just beautiful, like

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beautiful manipulation of a situation. And then what

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happens where, what, what is the catalyst for

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the guys getting whipped? Oh, that's when

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fucking Ianthe— Yep, that dumb bitch. Left the gate open

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and blamed it on the guards. They don't know that it's Ianthe though, right? Feyre

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or another soldier says it was Ianthe and they don't believe

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her. Tamlin doesn't believe that Ianthe would've done it on purpose.

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Right. That's another psychological torture, I think. Does that happen

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before or after he, Tamlin, explodes and

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like, Uh, Feyre gets like a cut on her face or something,

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like a piece of splinter wood hits her or something like that. He

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allows through her that— uh,

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God, the, the like genius

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of this woman's brain. She has learned so

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many tricks, or maybe she's just finally putting into action the

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tricks that she— I don't know what, but goddamn, dude. That whole scene happened

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in like chapter 8. Yeah, there was like missing keys. Ayanthi

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claims, um, that because of this guard

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forgetting to lock this, the naga, whatever the fuck that is, comes and attacks her.

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So she's trying to do it for attention, like, oh my gosh, look at me,

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because this happens after she's publicly humiliated. So I think she's trying to get the

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attention back. Back on her. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because that

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guard gets whipped, it starts to sort of plant this seed that Tamlin would

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believe Ayanthi over his own soldiers. I think the soldiers start to like

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build a little bit of resentment, like, who is our leader? Yeah. And he

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hurt— and when he lost his shit and he hurt her in the office,

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that was just one more strike against Tamlin, like, that his

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males saw. They were like, what the fuck, dude? And they were there

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when he like locked her in the house and she lost her shit. And they

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were there when like, you know, all these things happened before.

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And she's just— Playing it up.

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Now that they have this doubt of like, who are you? Like, you don't have

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our back. That's then when the fight happens and Feyre accidentally

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gets hit and is bleeding and she's playing into that

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battered me like, oh my God, he hit me. And like, so that the guards

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see that he's also not loyal to his own

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lady, not loyal to his guards, not loyal to his ladies. Everything is

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focused on Ianthe and himself. Yeah, well, because he's not only a

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shitty partner, he's a shitty leader. This is not the

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guy you play follow the leader with, okay? Unless you also

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want to be a shitty person. I loved it though, the

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psychological torture. Uh-oh. Well,

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okay, so you said that he's a shitty leader,

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but for a lot

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of years they followed him faithfully

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and believed in the things that he was doing and supported him.

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And for decades, right?

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So is he a shitty leader, or

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is he just in

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need to not be so—

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Mm. To not be anything like his father? He's just like

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stepping in To all the advice

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that Anthony's giving him, thinking that he's doing the right

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thing, thinking that he's doing the things. And then, and

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then, and then Feyre just comes in and like

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chisel and hammer to that one little crack and just

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cracks him wide open. And then

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all of a sudden he spends like, what, a couple months under the mountain and

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now he's crazy? Yeah. I wonder too if part of

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that, Nacho, is that before, when, when he was leading his

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guards the way he was, because he was sending men over the wall, right, to

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basically die for him. Um, yeah, I wonder if they

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gave him grace because of that curse. Like, maybe they were like,

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well, yeah, let's, let's have his— He's the only real— oh,

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so maybe like he's the only way we're gonna get out of this curse, so

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we need to like really buckle down. Yeah, maybe. And now they're

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like, wait, there is no curse. There's a war coming. We need to band together

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more than ever. And you're out here believing

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Ayanthe over your own soldiers who

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sacrifice themselves time and time again.

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And now you're just going to whip us and hurt us because you

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believe the words coming out of that twat's mouth. Did you

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just call her a twat?

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Yeah, these are fun words for me and I

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love them. I feel like Feyre comes in

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and everything is working, right? Like she's pulling this thread and everything is just

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falling apart. The guards resent Tamlin, they resent

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Ianthe. Um, Lucien, I think she knows she has him by

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the balls, but like— Tamlin's being a dick to him also.

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Tamlin's always been a dick. To Lucien. Book

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3 is like, fuck you, asshole. It

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gets to a point where Feyre feels like she's done her job. She's ready to

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go, um, and she packs a bag and she's planning, okay,

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tonight's the night, I gotta get out of here. She puts food in her backpack,

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she's sneaking around to get out. In doing

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so, she hears Lucien, um,

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having this verbal argument with Ianthe. Like, don't touch me, get

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away from me. She hears Ianthe being a predator, trying to

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have her way with Lucien. She puts those, those, those

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chains that delete the magic on him.

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Yeah. In the tree. Yeah. And she's like, so close to getting out alive.

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And this is like one of my favorite scenes in the whole book

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because— in the whole series because

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Isn't this where she like beats the shit out of her? Well, yeah. I

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mean, does she beat the shit out of her or does she make her beat

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the shit out of herself? Oh no, Farrah's got

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absolute control. No,

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no, Farrah is the bee's

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knees. She's got control

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because she's a De'Mati, right? And so she's

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got control, but she just beats the ever-loving shit out of

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the hand that touched Rhys and the—

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I'm like, get that bitch! And I'm not like—

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not in my real life, I'm not like that. But you get me

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twisted and fucked up in these books, man.

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So true. Like, it's done. I love

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that you said the hand that she touched Rhys with too, because remember when we

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were recording that book, we were foreshadowing where Rhys

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When she tries to touch Rhys, Rhys cripples her hand, breaks her hand or

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whatever. And so for Feyre to get inside of Ianthe's

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mind and make her beat that same fucking hand to just bits.

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Murder that hand. Who do you think you are touching people

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like that, you fucking asshole? Yeah, she's like, you're never going to touch anybody

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again. It just makes me— I

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just keep going back to, I think Tamlin's a giant slut.

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Now, here's my problem with that statement is you

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wanna be a slut, slut it up, man. You wanna throw your business

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everywhere all the time. I'm not here to yuck your yum.

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But Tamlin, my problem with this is that

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I think he was— I think he and Lucien

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were having a romantic relationship. Maybe. above

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board, maybe, right? Like, I don't know how that works out.

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But I also think that, um, he was sleeping

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with Ione, or whatever her fucking name is. Ione. Ione.

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Yeah, whatever. Pepperoni. Pepperoni.

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He continues to maintain that Farrah is his

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person, and yet still, in my

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imagination— I don't, I don't know why I, I keep going

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back to this, But they've

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been sleeping together the whole time, right? Because I, Anthony—

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I, Anthony— I, Anthony

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Pepperoni is—

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that's her MO. And we know that because of— from the other books.

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That's her MO. She goes, she sleeps with the High Lord, she gets in good

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graces, she manipulates all these situations. And the slut

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comment stands because You can't, you can't say

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you're this, in my opinion, you can't say

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that you're this committed, uh, human or

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committed being because they're not human to

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one person and then sleep around behind her

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back, behind anybody's back with somebody else.

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That just makes you trashy. I don't want to yuck anybody's

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yum, so fuck it. What would be really interesting? What

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would be interesting? In A Court of Thorns and Roses, the very first book where

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Tamlin is fucking whomever for that one night so that they have like good

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crops, it would've been amazing if that was Ianthe. I, I,

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I would put money on it. I would put money on it.

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She not only has this lady maim her own hand, she

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even goes one step further. You will not get it fixed. And

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anytime you think of me, you will have extreme fear. Like,

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she's like, I'm fucking you up physically and for the rest of your life, you'll

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be emotionally tormented and afraid of the sound of my name.

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Like, she's like, this bitch, she fucks her all the way up.

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So brilliant. During that scene, Lucien

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gets out of it all. I think she undoes it and he notices, oh, you're

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leaving. He makes the decision at that point, I'm coming with you. I want

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to see my mate. Isn't that also when the two—

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The brother and the sister. The twins, who I swear to God were sleeping

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together. A million percent. The twins

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are the niece and nephew of the King of Hybern who are

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at Tamlin's court for a while. They have been slowly

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poisoning, uh, Feyre through apples

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to weaken her magic and eventually take it away. They knew she was up to

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something. They knew she was a Damati. So it is during that scene that she

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realizes, oh shit, something is wrong. I don't

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have my powers as strong. It's like, ha ha ha!

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We've been slowly, you know. Yeah, they tell her everything. Yeah. Oh, they

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like lettering. Yeah. Yeah, because they think they're gonna kill her. They're like, yeah, we'll

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tell you everything. Fuck it. Um, so she

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knows. Okay, he's gonna come with me. We've got to kill

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these two fucking people. I have a very limited amount

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of power left, and I fucking love that.

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scene, or the way it's described in the book, is her winnowing to kill one

399
00:26:07,903 --> 00:26:10,926
of them first to torment the other one. And then

400
00:26:11,848 --> 00:26:14,754
Lucien steps in and kills the other twin. So the two of them end up

401
00:26:14,979 --> 00:26:18,611
killing the niece and nephew of the King of Hybern before they

402
00:26:18,611 --> 00:26:22,226
make their escape out. I was like, look at them

403
00:26:22,226 --> 00:26:23,206
working together.

404
00:26:27,421 --> 00:26:30,995
Friends. Yes. And getting out of Tamlin's

405
00:26:30,995 --> 00:26:34,813
fucking court to just leave the destruction in the wake, right? Like, fuck it. Because

406
00:26:34,813 --> 00:26:37,992
they don't have enough magic to winnow anywhere, they are basically

407
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:42,167
trotting along by foot, trying to figure out what is the best

408
00:26:42,199 --> 00:26:45,940
path out of this area for their magic to return so that they can

409
00:26:45,972 --> 00:26:49,216
get out and go to the Night Court. They can't go to the Summer Court

410
00:26:49,906 --> 00:26:53,567
because this is where she tells him that she's got a blood ruby

411
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,228
with her name on it. Um, they can't go

412
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to some of the other ones because there's I don't know,

413
00:27:01,225 --> 00:27:04,642
whatever else. And I think this is when we start to learn a little bit

414
00:27:04,754 --> 00:27:08,444
more about Lucien as a character. He shares with her the love of his life

415
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and how she was murdered and ripped away from him. Um, he also shares with

416
00:27:12,278 --> 00:27:14,781
her that he, he knew she was full of shit the whole time. Just stay

417
00:27:14,845 --> 00:27:17,267
out of her way and let her do whatever it was she was gonna do.

418
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And would help out if, if needed. Through all of that, they end up— I

419
00:27:21,423 --> 00:27:25,257
think they have to go through the Autumn Court, don't they? Autumn Court, yep. And,

420
00:27:25,449 --> 00:27:29,294
and he knows path of least resistance because if the brothers get a whiff

421
00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:32,658
that they're there, it's going to be a problem. Um, I think at this

422
00:27:32,851 --> 00:27:36,553
point it will become more of a problem if they

423
00:27:36,553 --> 00:27:40,056
know Feyre has powers. So he's trying really

424
00:27:40,153 --> 00:27:43,929
hard to go this back alley way, but it doesn't really work.

425
00:27:44,026 --> 00:27:47,810
Like, the brothers end up finding Feyre and Lucien, and now yet again

426
00:27:47,925 --> 00:27:51,677
they have to fight, and still with limited magic. Because

427
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so they get away in the Autumn Court and then they go to

428
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The Winter Court, and then they're traveling in the Winter

429
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Court, and then they come across this— they get through

430
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:05,953
the mountains, and then they come to this frozen lake,

431
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:11,162
and they're like, oh my God, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go!

432
00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:14,905
And then all of a sudden, uh,

433
00:28:15,616 --> 00:28:18,734
you could talk about this one because I can't talk about this one because I

434
00:28:18,782 --> 00:28:22,519
just get so excited. Really? Okay. Yeah. They're on this

435
00:28:22,696 --> 00:28:26,334
lake. Uh, the brothers are attacking. Um, this is when

436
00:28:26,527 --> 00:28:30,229
Feyre for the first time reveals to everybody

437
00:28:30,229 --> 00:28:33,515
that she is the High Lady of the Night Court.

438
00:28:34,076 --> 00:28:37,731
And I think at that moment they're like, ah, fuck. Because it means something

439
00:28:37,843 --> 00:28:41,498
like, oh shit, this is Rhysand's wife. It's not just Feyre with these powers.

440
00:28:42,011 --> 00:28:45,505
They know that there's going to be trouble ahead. And that is

441
00:28:45,618 --> 00:28:49,207
when, during this whole thing, Cassian and

442
00:28:49,352 --> 00:28:52,794
Azriel making a penis. Giant

443
00:28:53,051 --> 00:28:56,268
red and blue lights of sexiness just—

444
00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,906
Yeah. Right into the ice and ice

445
00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:03,464
splatters everywhere and blah. And you're just like, oh.

446
00:29:04,978 --> 00:29:08,149
Yeah. I have like in my, in my mind, I see

447
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:12,005
Cassian, glorious, fucking tall, muscular, dark skin, like

448
00:29:12,021 --> 00:29:15,824
long hair, fucking just like Bam! Fisting in with his wings all

449
00:29:16,017 --> 00:29:19,749
out, and he's like, here, motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what

450
00:29:19,878 --> 00:29:22,773
I see. I'm reading this book and that is just like not the word to

451
00:29:22,854 --> 00:29:25,669
use right there. What? Fisting?

452
00:29:27,968 --> 00:29:31,546
Fisting in. We're fine. Sorry.

453
00:29:39,326 --> 00:29:42,823
It immediately ripped me out of this book and went straight into the one that

454
00:29:42,823 --> 00:29:46,401
I'm reading, and I'm like, oh, oh, the monster, the monster spot one.

455
00:29:47,239 --> 00:29:50,231
That one too. Yeah, yeah, girl, I can't wait.

456
00:29:51,282 --> 00:29:54,324
Yeah, and they're pissed. They're here to rescue Feyre because

457
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:57,155
it's Feyre, but it's their High Lady.

458
00:29:58,869 --> 00:30:02,685
And so they come in, um, the brothers get fucked

459
00:30:02,685 --> 00:30:06,316
up. They get, uh, Feyre and Lucien, and they

460
00:30:06,316 --> 00:30:10,060
winnow them out. So finally they're there. Um,

461
00:30:11,137 --> 00:30:14,818
I thought it was interesting Cassian is a little upset with Feyre because you're

462
00:30:14,818 --> 00:30:18,478
my High Lady and you've put yourself at risk. So he gets

463
00:30:18,478 --> 00:30:21,218
grouchy. Yeah, he was very grouchy.

464
00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:26,271
Yeah, yeah, because like he spent months and months and months

465
00:30:26,497 --> 00:30:30,231
training her and now she had to use it,

466
00:30:30,361 --> 00:30:33,722
right? Even though like she couldn't master some of the shit, like the whole

467
00:30:33,835 --> 00:30:37,211
flying thing, things like that. But now they're pissed because she actually

468
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:41,932
had to use what they taught her to do.

469
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:47,631
Yeah, and I forgot to even say, the reason why Cassian and Azriel were

470
00:30:47,712 --> 00:30:50,837
out there is because when Feyre lost her powers for that moment,

471
00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:55,462
Rhysand thought she was hurt or dying. And so they had been searching for her

472
00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:58,836
frantically, like, oh my God, oh my God, where's Feyre? So I think he's mad,

473
00:30:58,852 --> 00:31:01,636
like, you made this choice, you're my High Lady. And I think it reminds him

474
00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:05,498
of what Rhysand did, um, without them knowing and sort

475
00:31:05,498 --> 00:31:08,879
of sacrificing himself and eventually, you know, being

476
00:31:09,071 --> 00:31:12,248
punished under the mountain. So I like the relationship that

477
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:16,324
Cassian and Feyre have. Yeah. And I, and I like to— like,

478
00:31:16,388 --> 00:31:19,918
in that part where, you know, Lucien finally became an ally

479
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,139
instead of being Tamlin's little bitch boy, you know,

480
00:31:24,171 --> 00:31:27,524
he is all like Team Feyre. You know,

481
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:31,696
I, I've got to get out. I've got to get out of this situation I'm

482
00:31:31,728 --> 00:31:34,520
in now, and the only way I can do it is if I go with

483
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,553
Feyre. I secretly hope that

484
00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:41,421
he's not Team Feyre. I secretly believe that

485
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,563
he's like, just team let me get my mate and

486
00:31:45,563 --> 00:31:49,239
get the fuck out of here. I think he cares a little bit

487
00:31:49,352 --> 00:31:52,899
about Feyre, but I don't think he's here for all of Feyre's

488
00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:56,425
fuckery. I do think he

489
00:31:57,465 --> 00:32:00,470
is for his mate because he lost the love of his life, so I think

490
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:04,149
he's hoping that he'll find love again, and that is sort of

491
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:05,956
what's driving him to make all these decisions.

492
00:32:09,244 --> 00:32:12,303
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about Lucien, because even throughout this book, I

493
00:32:12,303 --> 00:32:15,814
don't know if he has loyalty to any one court.

494
00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:19,550
I don't think he does. I don't think he does. I don't even know— and

495
00:32:19,648 --> 00:32:22,583
this is going to— we're going to jump way ahead because of this.

496
00:32:25,426 --> 00:32:29,229
At the end of the book, I feel like he's flirting with the human queen,

497
00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:34,289
the Phoenix Queen, whatever. And it makes me really

498
00:32:34,402 --> 00:32:37,744
fucking angry. Mm-hmm. Like, what are you— are you sleeping with her now, you

499
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,279
asshole? Like, why are you being friendly?

500
00:32:41,777 --> 00:32:45,600
You should be all about this Elaine person that you're supposedly whatever. But

501
00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:49,130
then they get into that whole story about, um,

502
00:32:51,775 --> 00:32:55,435
Rhys's mom and Dad, where they're

503
00:32:55,451 --> 00:32:58,961
like, they're mated, but they're not like made for each

504
00:32:59,026 --> 00:33:02,584
other. And so like, so that kind of throws me

505
00:33:02,826 --> 00:33:06,627
a little bit too. I'm not here for all Lucien shit. I think

506
00:33:06,627 --> 00:33:09,778
he's, I think he's putting on a front, and I think

507
00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:12,442
maybe he's trying to do the same thing that Feyre did to Tamlin.

508
00:33:16,577 --> 00:33:20,176
I think he makes it clear to Feyre, like, I just want to see her

509
00:33:20,176 --> 00:33:22,663
once. And Feyre's like, I'm not going to force her to do shit. And he's

510
00:33:22,663 --> 00:33:26,356
like, that's fine. Just let me come with you. And I just want to see

511
00:33:26,356 --> 00:33:29,904
her. So. Mm-hmm. I wish we could hear his inner

512
00:33:29,904 --> 00:33:33,581
dialogue because I'm just so curious, like when he finally— he

513
00:33:33,581 --> 00:33:37,370
gets to the Night Court, um, Rhysand, Feyre, they reunite. Everybody's

514
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:41,047
all just grateful that she's alive. I think some of them are

515
00:33:41,047 --> 00:33:43,022
also looking at Lucien like, what the fuck are you doing here?

516
00:33:46,576 --> 00:33:50,065
And Rhysand is definitely like, all right, well, you're here because my mate says you

517
00:33:50,065 --> 00:33:53,099
should be, but like, probably wouldn't have invited you on my own.

518
00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:58,797
Um, but Lucien eventually— and we're kind of jumping

519
00:33:58,895 --> 00:34:00,998
ahead— he eventually does. He sees Elain.