A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J. Maas, The Butch Badass Becomes a Trophy Bride, Pt 1

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The curse is broken, but Feyre's story is far from over.

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Welcome to part 1 of A Court of Mist and Fury, where everything

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you thought you knew is about to get complicated.

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She thought the only monster was Amaretto. Turns

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out there's another one lying beside her in

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bed. But while Feyre believes she is broken, She's about to

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find her voice, discover her strength, and realize who

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the real High Lord is. Welcome back to Paperback

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Confessions.

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For some reason, in those, I always lose my breath. Like I'm like.

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It just adds to the mystique. Breathing exercises.

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It's like kegels, but for your throat. Yeah,

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yeah. Hey, um, you don't want to know

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where my brain went.

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Yes, it came to visit my brain. Uh-huh. I knocked on your door.

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Little bitch, little bitch, let me in.

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That's what he says.

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Holy moly. All right guys, this is book 2

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in A Court of Thorns and Roses. Same author as last time. Sarah

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J. Maas. You think?

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Gee, for our listeners who are tuning in, maybe didn't hear it the

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last time, you're reading these as we go through this. So

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I want to do a quick check-in with you. How are you feeling after book

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2? Um, after book 2, okay,

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my instinct is still, I think, is correct, is

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that, um, Feyre is a butch badass

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bisexual woman. Okay. She get—

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and she's like being played. She's being played by

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like these 2 guys. One's just a fucking

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asshole, the other one's kind of manipulative.

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Wow. And then there's a whole lot of fucking

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edging going on in this book. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold

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up. Who are the 2 guys you're referring to?

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I'm sure one is Tamlin. Tamlin. Fuck Tamlin. Just

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automatically fuck Tamlin. Now I get— now I understand why we are

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all fuck Tamlin. And then Rhysand. Really?

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I— And who's manipulative?

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Rhysand is a little manipulative. And you read the whole book?

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So I got to the part where, you know, they're in there and they're like

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getting all like being the mate and everything. And then I

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finally got it, but I also realized like way early on

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that, um, Feyre and Rhysand were meant to be together.

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Okay, so, so, okay. And I asked that, and I think that's what caught me

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off guard, is how is that manipulative when that

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was his mate? But we'll— let's, let's put like a little, a little

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bookmark there, and then we'll, we'll dive into the beginning of this book.

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And so like in the beginning

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Right? When she's getting ready to marry fuckwad,

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because I can't even say his name. So, and then, uh,

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he's being like all controlling and she's feeling it, and then Rhysand swoops in and

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it's like, oh, time to go. And then it wasn't until

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later in the book when he started— when she started like feeling her powers

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and getting training and things that they were using her.

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Oh yeah, like a, like a chess piece. Yeah, she was a chess piece. So,

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um, okay, that's where I'm getting— I feel like he was kind of— Rhysand was

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like really honest about it. He's like, I need you to do the things,

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right? So you're basically signing on to whatever. And it's not until she puts her

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foot down and says, no, fucker, you're gonna like tell me all the

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things before it happens and not just be like

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Oops. That, that's the part that was hard for me

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is because I've been in relationships like that

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where you get into a relationship but you're only getting like

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half-truths. Yeah. When I'm

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not getting the full truth, it kind of pisses me off. Yeah.

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And so I was like rage reading for a bit. I'm like, are you

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fucking kidding me? Like

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Be a man. Like, either like say say what you

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need to say, but don't fucking play her like a violin

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because that's exactly what what he was doing is playing her like a violin,

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and it just it made me mad. Oh,

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that's my hands. I'm ready.

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Where are your hands? I heard it like brushing up against like corduroy. That's

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just how dry my hands are. Oh no! All those DIY projects. I mean,

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fuck. Is

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that why it smells like smoke all the way up here?

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Or like barbecue, which is a segue into another part of this book. Okay, listen,

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listen, listen. Let's give a quick CliffsNotes. I call it the bedside

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recap because the series gets really fucking intense,

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right? A little bedside recap, Nacho. Yeah,

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because I'm absolutely in love with the both of

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you, so you could like— yes. I

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don't know what's in your bedside drawer recap. No, I'm just kidding. Um,

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nobody needs to know that. That's not a podcast, but maybe one day it will

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be, and then we'll not have it anymore. But that's okay,

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it's only on OF for some reason.

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Ah, all right, we've, we farted around enough. All right, look, bedside

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recap for those that are tuning into this one. Maybe go back and listen to

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the other ones. But yeah, go back and listen to the other ones and realize

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that this is nothing but spoilers. Yes, spoilers. So if you don't

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like that, go away. Yeah, or come after

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you're done, you know. Yeah, you read the book.

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Okay, here's what happened last time. Do it. We

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meet Feyre Archeron. She starts as a starving human huntress doing

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whatever it takes to keep her family alive. After killing a wolf in the

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woods, she discovers that the wolf was actually a fairy.

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Oh! And her actions trigger an ancient treaty that forces

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her to leave the human world. She is taken to the Spring Court by

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Tampon/Tamlin— fuck that guy— High Lord of

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the Spring Court, where she slowly discovers that the beautiful fairy world

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she once feared is nothing like she imagined. Turns out it's pretty.

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It's beautiful. Feyre and fucking Tamlin fall in

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love. Fuck that guy. But there's a problem. A mysterious

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curse is slowly destroying Prythian. To break the curse, Feyre

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eventually goes under the mountain. Dun, dun, dun.

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Dun, dun, dun, dun.

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Where she is forced to complete 3 deadly trials set

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by Amaretto. Fuck that bitch. Fuck her.

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Along the way, she makes a bargain with Rhysand.

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To dangerously charming and morally questionable High Lord of the Night Court,

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AKA— I'm gonna record this and sleep to this at night. You know that, right?

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Rhysand helps her survive, but at what cost?

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Feyre completes the trials, solves Amaretto's riddle, and

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dies. Fuck. Yeah.

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Spoiler alert. She doesn't stay dead though. 7 High Lords

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resurrect Feyre and she returns made, no longer entirely

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human, but something new, something powerful. Tamlin gets his

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happily ever after girl back, question

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mark. Except Feyre isn't the same girl anymore.

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She has nightmares, she carries the trauma of Under the Mountain, and she has a

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bargain tying her to Rhysand. And somewhere beneath the gold masks,

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Spring Court romance and happy ending. The story is

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just getting started. That brings us to

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here. How was that? It does. I like that.

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I love the bedside recap. Okay. Going back to something you mentioned,

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G, I think you said you like were rage reading it.

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Yes. In doing this review, I have to say, I think it's

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healthy to say that there's a bit of a trigger warning with this book. The

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first half of the book, in my opinion, is a narcissistic

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man Who is basically abusive. Yes.

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And I struggled

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not completely losing my fucking mind in the first half of this book.

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Yeah. I was pissed.

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Yeah. So listeners— I was still trying to root for, he's the

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beast, right? This is going to turn into a beauty in the— because I had

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never read any of her books before at this point. So, this is

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my second book. So, I'm like, this is gonna be great, 'cause they're gonna work

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through this really terrible, horrible time. And

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then he just keeps getting more and more and more and more and more—

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I think he's trying to be protective, but

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he's just being willfully

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ignorant of anything that has to do with—

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Feyre and her whole existence. Yeah.

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And just what he needs to do in order to get through this time that

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they're blah blah blah. Especially now that she's

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powerful, right? She's not this weak mortal.

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Now she's immortal and she's a fucking badass. And you see it

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time and time again as you read the second book.

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And I was like, go Feyre, go Feyre! Like, But I also

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knew, like, she felt like she had to

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do it because she wanted to earn her keep. She didn't want to disappoint

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anybody. Yeah, she wanted to earn it with Rhysand. Yeah, and his,

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and his crew, because they treated her with respect and

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kindness and love. I mean, yeah. That's all

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we ever want is kindness and love, right?

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Kindness. Because I'm going to tell you, Tampon

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Is not kind, and not—

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at least not through the, the, you know,

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through the parts of the book that I read. And the fact that, you know,

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he like lost his shit in the house and like made

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her cower, and

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then like— and then, you

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know, locking her in the house and not allowing her to go with him and

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being super secretive. Fuck you, asshole. Yeah,

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listen, like, let's have some autonomy here. Like, let me

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show you what a badass I am and how I can help you. But no,

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he was like a pussy and he was like, no, I'm gonna lock your ass

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in the house. Yeah, and then says it's for her

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protection. That gaslight, you know?

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Yeah, like, are you fucking me? Like, get the fuck

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out of here. For my own protection?

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Okay, guys, hold on. I mirror

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all of these feelings, thoughts, statements. I 100% agree.

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But for the listeners, let's start where this book

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picks up. Okay. It is 3 months

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after they leave Amarantha, right under

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the mountain. They've— they're now moving out of the mountain and they're back in the

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Spring Court. And 3 months of time has passed.

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That's where the story begins. In the 3 months, a couple of things have

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happened. Feyre and Tamlin get

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engaged. They are engaged to be married.

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For those listening, Nacho's face was

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delightful. They get engaged after 2

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months and they are 2 weeks away

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from their wedding day. So just like in terms of timeframe, that's where we are,

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right? Here's some things though, because I was starting

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to think about this. In book 1, we meet Feyre for the first time

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and we get to know who she is through her

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eyes, right? She's a hunter, a provider, caretaker. Like that's her role.

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In this book, we are arguably meeting Feyre again

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for the first time because she's not human anymore, right? Like. Feyre

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is this fae now. And so who is

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she? She is going through some shit.

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So much shit. She's got really bad PTSD.

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Really bad. Real bad PTSD. I also think she is like

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grieving her human existence being gone. So like,

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those are really heavy emotions to handle on a normal

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day. Let alone,

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I think she's still isolated to some degree in the Spring Court,

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even though she knows Tamlin and

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Lucien and the people that live there. It's like that whole thing about being lonely

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in a whole room full of people. It's like a real thing.

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So she doesn't know who she is, and nobody else there seems to

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fucking give a fuck to learn who is she, or like, what is she going

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through? Like, Lucien Occasionally kind of like he can

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tell something ain't all the way right, but he's still eating

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Tamlin's ass. Like he is like, okay, but do we think that

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there's a thing with Tamlin and— there's gotta be, dude. There's gotta be. I

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feel like that's a thing. There's gotta be. I feel like that there's more than

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just a bro remain— uh, friendship relationship

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there. Yeah, I feel like there's actually some like

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There's some sexual tension. Romance. Yeah, some romantic

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situation there. They are in love. Well, Lucian is in

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love. Yeah, Lucian's in love with Tamlin. I still don't think he can love anybody.

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I think Tamlin loves him too, but I think Tamlin's just a— anyways, this is—

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Tamlin's never coming out of the closet. This is the fanfic we need and we

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want brought forth, right? Like, I want to read the eating of the ass. But

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nonetheless, Tamlin—

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Soul sister. Family.

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Who cares? I want to know all about it. But it

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did, it bothered me in the first half of this book,

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let's call it, that nobody sought to, to like

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check in on her. Like, okay, she

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immediately is, you know, obvious, obvious signs of PTSD— waking up

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from nightmares, throwing up, hiding it in the back— not hiding

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it, I mean, I guess you got to throw up in the bathroom, but like

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She's trying to keep it quiet because Tamlin doesn't wake up. He doesn't check on

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her. He doesn't— maybe he doesn't hear her. Maybe he does.

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Either way, he's not acknowledging what's happening to her. Right. And

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not even saying anything about her weight because she lost a ton of weight. She

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can't keep shit down. No. Yeah. And

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Tamlin, I guess, you know, they both went through the same,

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well, similar experience under the mountain. And there's parts in the book where they

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reference Tamlin also having nightmares. But the difference there is

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Feyre wakes up to try to comfort him, to check on him, like, is everything

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okay? And he's like, I don't want to acknowledge it. Let's never

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talk about it. And so they don't. They never talk about it. They never check

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in on each other. They— I think he like mirrors it as like,

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if we talk about her, she wins. So let's just never talk about Amarantha. Mm-hmm.

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So it just goes unsaid. Like nobody is checking in on each other. They're living

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in a very toxic relationship, all they seem to do is

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fuck, and like, that's okay. Like,

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orgasms are great, but it's not even a Band-Aid.

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No, it's not gonna get you through PTSD. So

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that is super frustrating, um, as like a

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pro, like, I don't know, human rights

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person. Like, what the fuck? Like, she's not even getting the

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help she needs. Yeah, and like she wasn't even getting the help from the other

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Faes in Tamlin's house, right? Like they were all leaving her alone.

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I'm like, this girl just went through some really traumatic

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shit. Like, man up. If this is

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who you, who you want in your life, like help her.

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Don't be a dick. Yeah, stop pushing her off onto Ianthe.

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Yeah, and she's completely changed, right? Like she

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Yes, physically has changed. She's figuring out what's going on with her,

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but her interests are no longer her interests anymore. She's

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triggered by colors, so she stops painting. She

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loses herself. She can't hunt or

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provide because he doesn't let her. Mm-hmm. And so she's alone.

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She's alone in this new existence with no one there to sort of help and

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guide her. And I think in the beginning of the book, at least I

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like to believe, that she starts to resent

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Tamlin pretty early on. Agreed. And so I

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took this clip of a line, because I think it depends on how you

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read it, like the meaning of it might change. And so she says,

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for him, I had done this. For him, I'd

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gladly wrecked myself and my immortal soul. And now I had

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eternity to live with it. Which, when I

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read it, I feel like she's like, for this

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motherfucker? For this motherfucker? Right. Yeah. Like,

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now I gotta live with this shit forever. This one decision I made for this

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piece of shit guy, right? But like, I'm sure that's not, you know, in her

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heart of hearts what she was feeling. But me hating Tamlin, that's

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how I'm reading that shit. No, but I feel like that's— I like that

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because she spends all this time under the mountain

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doing these things, and compromising herself

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to such a point that she's— I don't know, she just spends so

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much time like, well, he's not even acknowledging me, he's not

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even looking at me, but there's got to be a reason.

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If he does it, maybe, maybe Amaretto's

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gonna like, you know, do something terrible to him

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or whatever, and he's just trying to self-preserve or whatever.

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Fuck you, dude. Fuck that guy. Fuck him. Like,

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he, he really pissed me off because he reminded me of like

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men I've had in my life that are just fucking

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narcissistic gaslighting assholes and how I

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wanted to see each and every single one of them dead.

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Damn. Well, because of the way they make you

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feel. Like, you know what? I don't need that shit in my life.

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Nobody does. The world shits on me enough.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Besides

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Feyre, there's also— I think it's worth mentioning

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that the fae land, so like the Spring Court and all other courts seem

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to be trying to recover from Amarantha's reign. So

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there's— it's like the whole world is trying to kind of get

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back to what it knows and find some— Sort of way to rebuild

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itself. Also, Feyre.

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Yeah. Um, I guess

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we have to talk about Tamlin. Yeah, we gotta talk about Tamlin.

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Yeah, because he keeps popping up. Yeah, tampon.

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So listen, tampons are so helpful, and he was

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not helpful of a uterus uterus havers

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like Life. I don't think that we should call

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somebody who's so terrible something so

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valued. Okay, can we just call him fucker then? Let's just call him

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fucker. Whatever you want. I just needed to say that. That's all. I'm just gonna

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say Tamlin like that. Yeah,

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Tamlin. Um, actually,

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let's— let me put it off longer. Hold on.

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There's something else about Feyre. Feyre

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is known by people of the land, like they've given

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her this nickname called Cursebreaker. So like, I feel like

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that adds like this weight of like she has to live up to this

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thing, but she doesn't know who she is. Some ways that she's struggling

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to figure herself out and like signs that she is

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more than she was before. Mm-hmm. Is she now has

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this immortal strength. that she refers to as a curse in the very

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beginning half of the book. She thinks of it as— all of these as a

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curse. That she is breaking and bending silverware just by

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holding them. So she doesn't know her own strength anymore. She's shattering

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glass doors by closing them. She's super fucking

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clumsy because now she's got like these beautiful, graceful, long legs and she's tripping

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over shit. So like all of that to say, like she is

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unfamiliar with her own body. And she doesn't know how to be

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anymore. She is discovering who this new version of her

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is. And just, I think that adds to the mental aspect

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of feeling alone and nobody's there to even help you

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discover what it's like to be a fae. Yeah, because they're basically ignoring

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her. Yeah, they're turning

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the other way. She still has the

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tattoo Rhysand gave her. And she now is starting to

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notice, like, oh, it— the eye is

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definitely watching me and, like, adjusting to light. Like, she's paying more

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attention to this tattoo. Um, but all in all, she's

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restless, but she wants to help. She wants to be of service to

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Tamlin. Like, let me help you fight. I have these new— like, I'm

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not breakable anymore. Like, let me help. And Tamlin says— Let me

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learn. Let me help. Let me do something.

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Yep. And so now into Tamlin. This motherfucker— It's

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Tamlin. Tamlin.

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Turns out he's still hunting beasts from Amarantha.

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So even though Amarantha is dead, there's still people that reported

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to her or worked under her that are still quote unquote coming onto his land.

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So he'll disappear from time to time to hunt these beasts or do

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these things and never lets Feyre come even though she asks

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repeatedly to let her go. One

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fuck you Tamlin line that I have— Do it. Is I

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hated, like, the first time she asks to go with him,

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he says, I don't have sentries to spare to escort you.

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You did. The fuck? Yeah, like, I'm not your fucking princess.

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Listen, I'm just as badass as you are because now I

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have the powers of 7 High Lords. Like, I'm

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probably fucking more powerful than you are, but you're a dick

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and you just want me to sit around and bake cookies all day. Fuck you.

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Yeah, he's like, go paint. He has literally no idea that she

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can't paint because the colors trigger her. So he's like, don't come with me, go

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paint instead. Like, completely fucking out of touch with like

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anything involving Feyre. Yeah, yeah.

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Um, All of that to say, I have a theory on Tamlin.

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Ooh, okay. I like, I like theories. And maybe this is me

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trying to be less,

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I guess, critical of him, is I

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think that part of what drives Tamlin is his

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desire or his need to prove that he is so much

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unlike his dad. So his father

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was known to be cruel.

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He would basically take humans as slaves, beat the shit out of them, kill them.

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He was just a very cruel king.

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And so I think Tamlin has this underlying, like, I need to

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not be like my father. I need to show the world that I'm not like

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my father. And all of that, I think, drives— Tamlin's view

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of Feyre. And so my theory is

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Tamlin does not see Feyre as his High Lady or his queen

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because he sees her as his trophy. She proves that he is

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greater than his father. He doesn't want anybody

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to take his trophy away. That's my

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theory. That's a good one.

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That's, that's actually a really good theory, but he's still an asshole. Well, of

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course he's an asshole. Yeah, he's an asshole, but that kind of helps like

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justify maybe one of the reasons why he's such

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an asshole. Well, and I think that, you know, going back to

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like the mental healthy part of this too, is like there's some childhood

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trauma there that he's trying to fucking work through. And

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yeah, it's not coming through in the best light, okay? Like

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there's better ways. This whole book He's like a— just a giant

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wiener. Like just a huge

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whiny wiener of helplessness

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and discontent. And I'm

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here for it because fuck that guy. I like

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that you said because. Because. Because.

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It's because I got those extra chins, they'd be helping with that.

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Because.

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So that's my Tamlin theory. Um, I will say, side note,

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G taught me to do voice memos, and so I, I recorded that voice

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memo as I was running on the treadmill. Like,

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he's very wrong. Oh, you're sure you were like

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breathing hard when you were talking about it? Great. Yeah, but it hit me. Like,

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I was like, yeah, that explains why he keeps her in the house. doesn't

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want her to leave. She cannot be broken. She cannot be taken. He, that is

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his property, his trophy. You need to be in a room on a shelf. She

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sees it as protection. He's protecting her and he, and

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he's because she is his trophy. Yeah.

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But you know, there's, you can still be somebody's trophy and not be a fucking

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asshole. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's completely

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not. I don't think he's navigating through those feelings in a healthy way at all.

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Uh, gee, I just— is this new on top of your doorway?

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Sometimes I laugh so hard tears run down my leg. Oh no,

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that's been up there for a while. Okay. I

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spent so many hours in this room and I

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just saw it and I was like, that's fucking funny. I'm so

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sorry. You're okay. I scrolled so hard, but that was

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like, tears run down my leg.

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Oh, oh,

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I'm fine.

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Oh God, I'm so sorry for interrupting.

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Speaking of tears running down my legs, let's talk about Lucian. Dude,

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I get so crazy with him. I

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know, I love him. I love Lucian. I love Lucian because

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he wants to do something different than what he is, and he

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sees her, but that

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he is so committed and so,

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um, what's the word I'm looking for?

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Enamored? Yeah, enamored with Tamlin.

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Like, because he's so enamored with Tamlin and because he wants to

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give of himself so much to Tamlin for a

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multitude of reasons, It may— that's where, like, the

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relationship aspect, the, the romantic relationship aspect

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of their beings comes for me.

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Like, he sees Feyre

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struggling, and he wants to help Feyre, and he wants to, like, do the things.

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Even in that moment before she loses her

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shit, uh,

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he's like, just please, I'll talk to him. Like, he's always trying to talk

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Tamlin into something, and Tamlin's just like—

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Oblivious. Yes. He's so like— he's—

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Tamlin is— I'm gonna say this and I'll probably regret it, but he's

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so naive to the point that he's an asshole.

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Yes, like 100%. Yeah,

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Tamlin is all in Tamlin's head. Tamlin thinks he is

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the greatest thing next to fucking sliced bread.

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Uh, that he— no one is better than him and

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that what is his is his and he doesn't want to share. And I

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think that thing that like pissed me off is like Lucien's trying to help

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train Feyre, right? She has these

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amazing powers and, um, Tamlin—

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Tamlin— Tamlin— Tamlin.

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Tamlin is like No, you are gonna sit and curtsy

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and you're gonna fold your legs and you're gonna bake me fucking cookies

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and you are not gonna come out and you're not gonna learn how to—

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you're not gonna learn how to fight. We're gonna let those powers just stew in

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you. And that, that pissed me off. It's, it's like putting

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women down. Like, we are smart, intelligent creatures.

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Mm-hmm. And a lot of times we are 1,000 times

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better than a man. Yeah, I agree. And that's my lesbian perspective.

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Thank you. And thank you. Um,

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no, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree. Lucien at one point

457
00:30:13,207 --> 00:30:16,965
gives Feyre knives. Like, he, he— I think he sees the need for

458
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:20,786
her to train and like he doesn't see anything wrong with it.

459
00:30:20,995 --> 00:30:24,832
But what makes Tamlin even more fucking toxic in

460
00:30:24,848 --> 00:30:28,686
this book is he's got this cheerleader We meet a new character. Her name is

461
00:30:28,718 --> 00:30:32,411
Ianthe. Fuck this bitch. Bitch.

462
00:30:33,118 --> 00:30:36,907
Fucking bitch. Bitch. See, I hate her more than

463
00:30:36,923 --> 00:30:39,781
I hate Tamlin. Yeah, she's a

464
00:30:39,958 --> 00:30:43,217
real— She's a real fucker. Slimy

465
00:30:43,795 --> 00:30:47,023
fucking— Piece of shit. She's a predator, bro.

466
00:30:48,387 --> 00:30:51,406
Ianthe is a high priestess, which—

467
00:30:54,026 --> 00:30:56,513
Let me not. Do it. This bitch,

468
00:30:57,191 --> 00:31:00,825
Ianthe. She's

469
00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:04,193
this high priestess. She's supposed to be a spiritual guide and

470
00:31:04,193 --> 00:31:07,713
like, whatever. She's also somehow like the wedding

471
00:31:07,745 --> 00:31:11,507
planner because Feyre decides— I think she

472
00:31:11,507 --> 00:31:14,898
never— I think all along, all along she

473
00:31:14,898 --> 00:31:18,304
realized this was a bad idea and it made her less

474
00:31:18,304 --> 00:31:22,037
excited to pick colors for the wedding, seating charts, a wedding

475
00:31:22,136 --> 00:31:25,880
dress, Yada, yada, yada. So Ianthe swoops right in and is

476
00:31:25,912 --> 00:31:29,668
like, don't worry, I'm going to do that all for you. I'll kind of

477
00:31:29,668 --> 00:31:33,071
involve you here and there. Feyre is more than happy to let Ianthe take that

478
00:31:33,071 --> 00:31:36,731
responsibility on. But Ianthe is also in Tamlin's

479
00:31:36,731 --> 00:31:40,536
ear encouraging it all. Yeah, she doesn't need to train.

480
00:31:40,664 --> 00:31:44,292
She doesn't need to fight because the appearance of that would say we're in

481
00:31:44,292 --> 00:31:47,952
trouble. People see that your soon-to-be wife is

482
00:31:48,128 --> 00:31:51,690
training. What is that going to tell them about? Mm-hmm. us, right?

483
00:31:51,754 --> 00:31:55,441
Like, she doesn't need to do that. She needs to stay home. She needs to

484
00:31:55,441 --> 00:31:58,904
wear certain things. She needs to walk certain

485
00:31:58,968 --> 00:32:02,736
ways. And so she is just in Tamlin's ear, and he's listening to her

486
00:32:02,736 --> 00:32:06,583
because they grew up together. So Ianthe to Tamlin, they—

487
00:32:06,727 --> 00:32:10,511
they're childhood friends. Which the fuck does that say

488
00:32:10,511 --> 00:32:13,909
about Tamlin? Tamlin. Tamlin.

489
00:32:14,855 --> 00:32:18,447
Tamlin. Mm-hmm. I do

490
00:32:18,527 --> 00:32:22,312
think, though, that Ianthe

491
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,224
was helpful for Feyre in those moments, but I do think Feyre

492
00:32:26,369 --> 00:32:29,881
immediately recognizes Ianthe as

493
00:32:30,057 --> 00:32:33,248
kind of being full of shit. Yeah, she saw red flags

494
00:32:33,761 --> 00:32:37,530
right from the beginning. Mm-hmm. She saw them. I just

495
00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:41,282
don't think that she, like, acknowledged them, but I

496
00:32:41,282 --> 00:32:45,022
think she filed them away. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah, I can't deal with

497
00:32:45,054 --> 00:32:48,683
this right now, but I'm gonna put it back there somewhere so that maybe one

498
00:32:48,683 --> 00:32:52,521
day I can. And then maybe one day she does. And Lord

499
00:32:52,521 --> 00:32:56,311
have mercy. Mm-mm.

500
00:32:56,696 --> 00:33:00,486
Um, yeah, Iyanthe served a role. She served a purpose, and I think

501
00:33:00,486 --> 00:33:04,260
Pharaoh was using her for that, right? Like, yeah, let's let this roll because I

502
00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:06,797
don't wanna do it. Yeah. I know all the rules of all the fae things

503
00:33:06,845 --> 00:33:10,185
that need to happen. Mm-hmm. And, and I, yeah.

504
00:33:10,524 --> 00:33:14,260
Let, let that, let that hoe have it. She can have it. Yeah.

505
00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:17,979
And in, in the book, Feyre even acknowledges that Ianthe is

506
00:33:18,691 --> 00:33:22,415
more of a match for Tamlin than she is herself, because Ianthe is

507
00:33:22,463 --> 00:33:25,941
all about appearances and she, she fits

508
00:33:26,665 --> 00:33:29,679
the, the role that Tamlin's actually looking for.

509
00:33:30,926 --> 00:33:34,570
Yeah. So fuck that bitch. Yeah.

510
00:33:36,269 --> 00:33:39,199
Fuck that bitch. I do have a note. Thank you, bitch, so I don't have

511
00:33:39,199 --> 00:33:42,274
to deal with it. Mm-hmm. In this part of the book.

512
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:46,760
Yep. Um, I did put a note in here for you though, G.

513
00:33:47,805 --> 00:33:51,477
Just a tip, the first sex scene happens in 22 pages.

514
00:33:53,854 --> 00:33:57,620
Tamlin and Feyre. Whatever. You know what, I was

515
00:33:57,653 --> 00:34:01,363
looking for something like, okay, like, let me go down on you, blah blah

516
00:34:01,363 --> 00:34:05,104
blah. I don't know, it's like Immortal tongue better than

517
00:34:05,298 --> 00:34:08,478
mortal tongue? I don't know. They talk and then

518
00:34:09,737 --> 00:34:13,067
a lot of going down on her, blah blah blah, finally have sex, blah blah

519
00:34:13,067 --> 00:34:16,917
blah. Okay, but like the good sex like didn't come

520
00:34:17,192 --> 00:34:20,897
until like way later in the book, like

521
00:34:20,897 --> 00:34:22,662
way— Stop reading!

522
00:34:24,718 --> 00:34:28,425
Way like I couldn't like, you know,

523
00:34:30,036 --> 00:34:33,796
I could have died before I got there. They have like sweet sex, which

524
00:34:33,893 --> 00:34:37,733
it makes it worse because he's such an asshole that you're like, ugh.

525
00:34:37,845 --> 00:34:41,268
I found that these sex scenes were so uncomfortable for me.

526
00:34:42,071 --> 00:34:45,541
Tamlin and Feyre? Yeah, I hated it.

527
00:34:46,007 --> 00:34:48,755
I hated it so much. I was like,

528
00:34:49,944 --> 00:34:53,736
this is what happens when you no longer

529
00:34:53,736 --> 00:34:57,428
like your partner. And you're just— but you're

530
00:34:57,509 --> 00:35:00,910
open to grab a couple orgasms. Yeah,

531
00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:04,648
and like, there's only so long that like,

532
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:09,460
that you can do that and still be able to like live with

533
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:13,054
yourself. Yeah, so I feel like that's just one more way for

534
00:35:13,054 --> 00:35:16,343
her to use this

535
00:35:16,343 --> 00:35:20,113
relationship to like hurt herself some more. She's

536
00:35:20,209 --> 00:35:22,658
willing to sit and to hurt herself more

537
00:35:23,982 --> 00:35:27,681
because of how she feels and how she— right? So she's fine

538
00:35:27,714 --> 00:35:31,389
to sit in all these things because she feels

539
00:35:31,486 --> 00:35:35,253
like a terrible person. And this is

540
00:35:35,285 --> 00:35:38,682
helping to abuse her psyche

541
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:42,814
more than she could just do it on her own. That ties

542
00:35:42,926 --> 00:35:46,606
back to that line where she's like, I've done this shit for him. She's like,

543
00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:48,839
and now I have eternity to live with it. Yeah, I think you're right.

544
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:54,077
Yeah, yeah. I never thought I did these horrible things under the mountain with

545
00:35:54,126 --> 00:35:57,834
the you know killing these beautiful innocent beings, right?

546
00:36:00,104 --> 00:36:03,673
And and that's like the biggest thing that she's hung up on—not

547
00:36:03,818 --> 00:36:07,500
killing the worm, not like whatevering all the other

548
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,064
things. It's the

549
00:36:11,483 --> 00:36:14,887
the killing of the innocents. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

550
00:36:15,388 --> 00:36:19,220
that like really fucks her up and that she holds onto. To your

551
00:36:19,284 --> 00:36:22,481
point, yes, he goes down on her and he pauses because that's when they have

552
00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:25,035
this conversation that drove me wild

553
00:36:26,256 --> 00:36:30,009
of Feyre asking, you know, what are people going to call me after we get

554
00:36:30,009 --> 00:36:33,390
married? Oh, fuck that guy. Oh my

555
00:36:33,827 --> 00:36:37,463
God. Fuck that guy. Sorry. And he's

556
00:36:37,463 --> 00:36:41,278
like, well, they'll call you Feyre or they'll call you my wife or they'll

557
00:36:41,278 --> 00:36:44,168
call you the Lady of the Spring Court. And she's like, what about High Lady?

558
00:36:44,705 --> 00:36:48,529
And he's like, there's no such thing as a high lady. High lords only

559
00:36:48,529 --> 00:36:51,949
take wives or consorts. Yeah, that

560
00:36:51,949 --> 00:36:55,214
consort word really sent me over the edge. Mm-hmm.

561
00:36:56,091 --> 00:36:59,434
And then he's like, let me get back to what I was doing. Yeah, I

562
00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,494
got seeds to plant. Don't, don't have some— she said Lucian or something.

563
00:37:03,171 --> 00:37:06,923
Don't have another man's name while I'm inside you or

564
00:37:07,535 --> 00:37:10,706
my whatever. I don't feel like. Fuck off.

565
00:37:12,981 --> 00:37:15,678
Don't have a word, a, a conversation with me.

566
00:37:16,892 --> 00:37:19,210
I think it would have been kind of funny if she would just like moan

567
00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:21,854
out for Sam's name though. That would have been perfect.

568
00:37:24,507 --> 00:37:28,184
So that's kind of our main characters, um, but

569
00:37:28,396 --> 00:37:29,453
now let's get into the good shit.