Flock by Kate Stewart, Our First Confession, Pt 2

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Welcome back, book besties. This is part two of our flock

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discussion. If you've made it this far, that means you've survived part

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one and you are ready for the rest of our secrets, theories,

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questionable decisions, and emotional damage that

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Kate Stewart had in store for us. Fair warning. Spoilers

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ahead. Let's jump back into flock.

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Can I tell you, that's one of the hottest things I've ever read in a

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book. That's a good one. I was like. Were the three of them.

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Yeah, girl. I had to go back and read that like three or four times.

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It's a good scene. Yeah. That's just the tip.

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We are trying to. Listen, listeners. We're trying to incorporate a segment called Just the

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Tip where we talk about the spiciest sex scene in the book. And

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I think it's that, so. Oh, it's definitely that.

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Yeah. Setting the scene. I don't know why they're there,

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actually. Well, she and Sean are gonna go on a date.

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Yeah. He's like. There was gonna be a picnic. Of course it is.

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They get there and Dom's there, and she's like,

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what the. Dude? And then somehow they all end up on a

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raft. Raft. But it's. It's.

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Yeah. Like, we don't know that's. I need. I need. It's not a raft. It's

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the. Like a floaty.

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Yeah. Inner tube. Like a. Like a giant floating

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thing. That's such. Bed. Yeah. It's

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an air mattress. Not wrong. It's an air mattress on water.

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So it's basically a water bed. Yeah.

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So I don't know that it's a water.

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You got me really up right there. Like a water bed. No, water

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beds are like a whole other ball game, I think.

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Sorry. We need Kate Stewart. We need to know what. We need a

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picture of the float. I think because I was going to make a joke. In

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the Titanic, Leo could not fit on that

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piece of floating wood. But

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in flock, somehow, three humans.

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That's a dock. Is. Are they on a dock?

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Yeah, in the middle of. Hold on one minute. Let me give my girl. Okay,

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you keep talking. Okay, so keep talking. The point is, why

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couldn't we get Leo on that raft in the ocean? When

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Cecilia and Sean and Dominic

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somehow manage to have a threesome floating in a river.

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I don't know how it happens. Like, I tried. This is what I

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imagine. Can you. I'm gonna put this in. No, I'm putting

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it. I found a picture. I was so excited. I was like. He drawing a

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diagram? No, this Is what I imagine. Okay,

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okay. This is what I am at. I put it in. Oh.

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Do you see what I'm saying? Like a little diving. Floating dock. Dock in

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the middle, where you're like, it's. It's anchor. Okay.

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And. Right. And you go out. But. But

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still, it's not like they don't swim out there. So it's gotta be like

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a dock that comes off of. Fuck it.

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Where's. Who knows? Yeah, like. Like they're not even going. Yeah, like

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they're not floating around. Yeah, she's like,

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bathing, I think topless. I don't know. She

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like. Listen, the vibes are there. The vibes are there. Dominic's

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looking at her like, give me consent. I did put that in there.

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Like, he was, like, looking at her for the visual consent. Like, are you okay

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with this waiting? Yeah. Hands off. Like, we're going in. Like, pressured

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waiting. Hmm.

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I guess. Yeah. But she wanted it. I

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sound creepy now. She did want it. Like, they

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all three of them wanted it. And to me, it was like, it was

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super hot. Like, I. I read that chapter

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like four times because she all told me, like, you need to go back and

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read that chapter again. So I did.

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Yeah, yeah, they're there. She's topless.

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Shawn starts encouraging it. Her and Dom

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share a kiss. There's fire, there's this passion.

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There's this, like, gravity towards one another. Dominic and Cecilia, they're just,

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like, drawn to each other. And shit

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proceeds to happen. And dad,

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if you're listening, now is the time to fast forward. You don't want to hear.

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Continue to talk about. Listen. If your dad consents

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to listening to your podcast where you have a

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segment called Just the Tip, we are talking about

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this. Dad, you're fine. You're a grown ass

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adult. Know that your daughter has had sex multiple

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times with many, like, different partners.

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Who knows at the same time. Who doesn't know at the same time? That's not

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our business. Unless she makes it our business. That's fine.

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If dad has committed to consent to whatever happens on this podcast, he's

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fine. This is, though. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. You, Rex? No.

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What I'm going to find interesting is that every time they have sex, no matter

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who she's with, they wear a condom. But not in this one. Not

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in this one. Not in this. That is literally what I was just about to

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say because Nacho in our group chat was like, was there sex without a

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condom? Because every sex scene, they mention a

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condom, condom, condom, condom. But the lake scene,

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they Don't. And she gets two guys off. So like, she

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gets sha off, then she gets d

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off. Neither of them wear a condom.

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Just let that sit in for a minute. Yeah. You don't know anything about what

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she's doing until like the second book. Yeah. So you have no

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clue. So I'm like. Because I've been. I have

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series, right. She playing with fucking fires, which is planted.

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There was no mention of birth control in the book one. Like, so

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you don't know. You're just like, wow, she's really chancing it out

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here. I'm just waiting for somebody to get knocked up and like, we're gonna have

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this whole like extra arc of kid and angry and like

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who, who's who and because I. Sure, why

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not? So this just the tip is

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there's a three way on a floaty device, floatation

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device, floating dock, something. I imagine water

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wings. Now you say that

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we're all just wearing water wings, getting a three way on in the middle of

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the lake.

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Somehow it works. It's the best sex she's ever had.

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Well, I mean, come on. Would it not be the best sex that you top

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up there? Maybe not punch yourself in the face good, but definitely,

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like, you got two hot guys railing you. That's why I think Dom

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was my favorite in book one, was because there's something about

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like this quote unquote strong, powerful man, like this super hyper

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masculine dude. And like her ability to make

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him just fold

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with sex, I think is super hot. Like, that is, I'm like, holy shit.

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Okay. Like, Dom immediately sees her in a different lens. Like, he's like, wow,

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this girl did what nobody else has ever done and

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he's hooked. Yeah. So then what happens?

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That is a turn on. Right? But I feel like that's like a. I don't

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know, maybe it's just my jadedness is like that's a young

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perspective. Mm. Right? I, I,

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yeah. I, I, I just think object is gonna change the

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guy. Right. I think I see it as like power. I'm

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like, oh, yeah, it was a part. Sure. It was

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a power move. Yeah, that's hot. That's hot.

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So. So that's like the best. Can we all agree of this entire

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book that's the hottest sex scene in just the tip?

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Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. One million percent. What would we

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rate it on a scale of. We call our scale

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listeners Halos to handcuffs. Halo,

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you're sweeter, you know, you're innocent.

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Hottest you can get is handcuffs. To me, it was

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handcuffs. That was a fucking hot scene. And for me to have to go

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back and fucking rewind. T. Rex, you're just putting your toe in this whole

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business right now. I'm just saying, we're like, what's in the

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middle? Keep going. I

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interrupted yet again. I apologize, Rex, but

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go for handcuffs. Tell me. So the reason for

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handcuffs is just the whole dynamic, right, of, like,

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this sweet, sort of innocent girl. She'd only been

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with a couple of guys before she hooked up with these two hoodlums.

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And in the middle of the fucking lake

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where anybody could see. Where anybody could see. I mean, can you imagine

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little Johnny and her and his granddaughter.

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Granddad's gonna be somehow

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fishing on the shore and, like, seeing this take down something

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a little extra. Yeah,

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Like, I give that whole scene, like, a five.

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Yeah, maybe a five plus. Because I. For me,

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and you guys know me, I'm. I'm a reverend as shit. But, like, I got

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a little hot and bothered. So, yeah,

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I think our. Our verdict is in. That was the hottest sex scene in

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the book. After that is when things get a

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little twisty, wisty. We're going down some

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crazy shit. So the three of them hook up.

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Fantastic. Then what happens, right? And at some point, I

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could relate to her sort of, like, guilty feeling of like, if I'm

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spending time with Dominic, then possibly I'm hurting Sean. Like

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that. Guilt in the back of her mind continues to weigh where Sean's

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like, no, babe. Like, you can have us both. And Dominic's the same thing. He's

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like, no, we can be in this thruffle. Nobody's gonna get

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upset about it. Like, how do we figure this out? Logistically,

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Dominic's like, how do we do this? Like, how do we make it work? Side

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note makes sense, because Dominic. Dominic graduated from mit, so

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he's like, troubleshooting mode. We've got this. I

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take your rainy days. Sean gets your sunny days,

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which is a near and dear moment to me. Like,

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sweet to me. Yes, right. Like, because it kind of,

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like, speaks to their personalities a little bit.

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Right? But also, like, you never get enough

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rainy days.

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How far did you get in the second book? What chapter are you on?

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13. I'm on. I'm chapter 40. What did I

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say? Chapter 41.

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So eventually, we'll cover

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those books. There's a lot to say about that. But, yes, that is the important

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message here, is that Dominic gets her rainy days in this book that we're

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speaking upon today. Today. Yes. Yes. He

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gets a rainy day. There wasn't enough rainy Days. But the

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rainy days that they did have were so cute. They didn't go anywhere. They didn't

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do anything. Right. All day, they.

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Hey, hey, listen, right? Like,

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yeah, Sean is our granola guy. He's always wanting to go hiking. He

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wants to get out of the house with adventurous.

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Like, that's when I start vibing with Dom is when he's like, no, I'm

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not trying to go outside. I'm just trying to sit in here, do my fucking

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work, get laid and read a book. Yeah, and smoke weed. He's like,

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smoke weed, Exactly. Yes.

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He teases her. There's foreplay happening when

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he. He makes her code on his computer as she's sitting on

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his lap. Like, that's their first rainy day, which is hot as fuck.

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Then, you know, they have sex. He doesn't let her

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leave his room. But, like, not in my opinion. Maybe you guys have a

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different point of view. I didn't think he did it, like, as top shit

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as Sean, right? Like, Sean's like, I'm smashing your shit. You don't have this around

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me. Dominic was more playful about it. I feel like there was no. Okay.

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But there was no, like. Like, lead up to

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the. To the watch. Smashing. Right? It

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was just like, ah, I'm gonna rip it off your hand

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and throw it on the floor and spike of anger. And

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I was like, where did that come from?

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Oh, sorry. I know, I know. And Dom's like. Dom

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turns out to be, like, a bit sweet and a bit. He

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is. He buys her romance books. Although that was a little bit creepy. He

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knew what books to get her because he kind of spied in her

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house. He fully stalkered her. He fully stalkered her. I also think that's

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another scene where there's sex without a condom. At some point, guys, we kind of

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skipped over it. Sean and Cecilia sort of break up. He comes

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by her house, fucks her in the pool or on the

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side of the pool or on the side of the house or something. While Dominic

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is inside her dad's house spying, he spies. He

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sees this list of books that she. Her TBR list,

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buys them, has them in his room for the first rainy day, so

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she's able to read the books. That's also a good, spicy

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scene. She's reading the books, and he will

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pleasure her while she reads. But if she stops reading,

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then he stops anyways. I love Donna. I mean, I feel like that's a cute

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little game. I see no problem here.

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Okay. Edging's all well and good until it's happening to you. And then

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snow. It's not good anymore. Okay? I'm just saying.

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There's one thing I've learned about you, Rex, in this episode. Don't fucking edge her.

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She's got zero tolerance for the edging. She's like, baseball bat

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me. Don't edge me. Listen, I'm 62 years old.

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I don't have time for edging, okay? Time is not on my side.

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Fair. Either get me off now or have the fucking for this.

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Fair enough. So they've.

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They've developed this relationship. Me trying to get us back on track. They've

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developed this relationship where she's sort of splitting her time between these two guys. Things

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are going well. At some point she confesses her

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love to Sean. I think think he confesses it back. She's

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struggling with the Dominic one because Dominic is Dominic, and

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like, is he capable of loving her back? She doesn't know. She doesn't want to

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scare him off. Throughout this sexual chemistry

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in this three way, there is this underlying story

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of them telling her,

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well, she basically sees that they're sort of in this kind of gang is how

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she equips it too. It's like a gang or it's like a secret society. Or

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all these guys have these raven tattoos

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somewhere on their body. Right. It's kind of weird for a group of guys to

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kind of have this tattoo. And

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all these events are sort of like this unspoken game plan

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happening where she can't quite put the pieces together of like, what the fuck is

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going on? And nobody is forthcoming with information.

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So it's very much like this secret society. So she's trying to figure out what

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the fuck is happening and who are these two guys that I'm now in love

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with.

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Fast forward to, I guess like the

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breaking point for all three of them.

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Throughout her trying to figure out what is happening, they keep. Sean keeps

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asking her, can you keep a secret? And when she's like,

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yeah, what's the secret? Like, he doesn't tell her. He's like, no.

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Like, basically like, I don't think he believes that she can keep a secret. So

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he never really confesses it all up front. So the

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breaking point happens when

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sort of like the relationship start to end. Hey, you've got to get out of

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here. Get her out of here. Like all of a sudden it's like, what the

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fuck is happening? They want me to go, somebody's gonna take me home. Like, she

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doesn't know what's going on. And Shawn tells her someone couldn't keep the secret.

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And she's like, what the fuck is the secret? Right? Like, what is happening?

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She is sort of brought back home.

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Communication stops. They don't call her

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anymore. They're not picking her up. She's now battling with this,

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like, fuck, was I just this fling? They don't want me

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anymore. And those feelings of like, what do I do now? Like,

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how I saw her as being very desperate in that moment

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to try to get contact with them, to like, get that validation again that everything

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was fine. She

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goes back to the place where

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they work and where they live and sees that there's this huge party

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happening. She goes in.

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I feel like this is, I think, D wreks in our group chat, you were

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like, what the fuck is happening? Because when she goes in

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to see Sean and Dominic there, Dominic, the

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asshole that he is, is very much like, who's this fucking bitch? Right?

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Like, back to, like this waste of breath. Like, why is she even.

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And that's sort of how they treat her, is like, it never was anything.

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And then they're like playing the song, the Cecilia,

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Cecilia song, and like ignoring. And

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she's just like, oh, oh, so you've been using me this whole time? Yeah,

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I was fucking pissed. I'm like,

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typical man. Like,

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fucking. Okay. But you know what? Lesbians are just as

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bad. Just a lot of fucking drama though. But like,

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God damn, like, have some balls to like take her

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aside and tell her, don't do this in front of all your friends. Because

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that's no better than being fucking yelled at by your

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supervisor in front of all your peers.

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That was. I mean, this is a spoiler heavy episode.

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Yeah, I was like, spoiler heavy

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episode. They don't pull her aside. They make it very

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much a public spectacle. And you start to wonder, at least I did.

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Reading this book for the first time was like, these guys are fucking pieces of

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shit. Yeah. Like they're. Because I think at some point in the beginning you sort

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of hear a rumor, like how they ruined this one girl's life or whatever that

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they shared. So you think, oh, I guess that really is how they are.

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But you come to find out they have to do it that

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way. Or at least they choose to. Because

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the secret, the whole time is

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Cecilia. She's the secret. She's the secret. Why

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do you ask? Because there is a character called the Wolf,

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at least introed as the wolf. And the

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wolf didn't know that

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Cecilia was going to be in town. He had no

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idea that she had returned to Triple Falls. She

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was meant to be out of this plan.

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She wasn't supposed to be a part of it at all, but she

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showed up. The plan to do what, though? That's in book

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two. That's in book two. There is a plan?

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Well, I guess. Is it book two? You have to tell me in book. At

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the end of book one. Does. At the end of book one,

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Cecilia meets the Wolf. Yeah, but she just

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meets him. She doesn't know. Book two is when he tells her the

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plan. And book two is

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fucking me up in ways that I never thought I would be

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fucked up in a book. So, yeah, thank you for

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sending me down the spicy trail again. Yeah. I'm sorry.

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And my reading list now is way different than what

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my reading list was in third grade. Just.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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So, guys, I'm gonna find this. That's Flock.

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I do want to mention something. One of my favorite parts, because I was like,

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I gotta work this in when you're reading book

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two. So book two is called Exodus. So Flock is book one. Book

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two is called Exodus. Book three is called the finish line

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in Exodus. I think it's about halfway through the book

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is the beginning or the prologue of Flock.

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So you could literally read book two. I think you get. I have to find,

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like, the page you get about halfway through. And you can read the prologue of

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book one. And it's like this loop. Or it just. It'll keep

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looping because this is like that traumatic moment for her is like

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falling in love with these guys. Meeting the Wolf. Yeah,

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it's this loop. I remember reading it and realizing that that was

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the prologue in book one. I was like, holy shit. Like, it

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blew my mind for some reason. But it makes sense because the prologue in

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book one is her in a car. And it's very

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clear that she's going through something. She's returning to Triple Falls

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to sort of make it right. She's

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frustrated that these men, her boys of summer, have ruined her,

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and she's kind of going back for revenge. That's the prologue of

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Floch. And then Floch starts of the story of that

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summer. And, like, these boys and who they were, and, like, the

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trauma and the sex and the breakup. And then she meets the wolf.

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And then book two picks up. Yeah, but Flock starts out as,

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now I'm leaving school.

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I miss my guys. And then it goes to

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then. And that's where we pick up

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where she comes to town the very

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first time. Right. So, you know, there's like. Right. And

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that's why she's like, leaving college. I think that's so, like. I

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remember thinking, that's so fucking clever of the author to do that where you can

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look. And the fucking cliffhanger sent me over the fucking edge. Like,

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she's just laying there with this song playing. I still didn't get the song

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reference. Oh, no. I was just gonna complain because my

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mama raised a complainer, not a quitter,

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so. And I can't even take credit for that.

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She's laying there like she's gonna have a fucking problem with these two guys that

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she have basically, from the

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perspective of where she's sitting, shit on her, torn her heart

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out, and yet still she's in love with them and she wants them

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to come see her. So she lays down in her little lounger on the back

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porch, she blasts this song. I still don't get the reference.

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I'm gonna have to go back and read this fucking book again. But I'm gonna

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finish all three first. And then

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all of a sudden, she has this after a couple of hours of the song

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on repeat, and she's laying there topless because that's really

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important. And all of a sudden

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she realizes that somebody's there and there's a shadow

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cast over her. And she smiles, thinking

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that it's Dom or Sean. And it's not. It's

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the Frenchman, the wolf quote, unquote. So

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then it just stops.

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I know. I love it. What the am I supposed to do with that? What

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the am I supposed to do with that? Like, it was genius on her

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part on. On her. Her editors or whoever's decision. It was

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because I was done. I was like, this book.

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If I was in a habit of throwing my Kindle, I would have thrown my

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Kindle. Yeah, the last line. You are the first. God, I was so

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mad. I was like. Immediately. It was like

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nearly 10 o' clock at night, and I had to work. Be up

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at 5am to go deal with

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school children's. And

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stop. So now hold on, hold on. I'm gonna read this. It goes. He's

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ready to pounce, his posture livid, his fists clenching at his sides. I'm

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positive if I were standing, my knees would have buckled under the weight of his

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blistering gaze. I'd gotten it totally wrong. One step forward,

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but 10 steps back. You're the Frenchman

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Bookends, like, who the fuck is the Frenchman?

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And I'm like, I have to read. So then I can't even read. Like, just

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a little bit. I had to read two chapters. So then it's like

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midnight and just one more chapter. Just

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one more chapter. Yeah. Fuckers. Listen,

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you know, I need at least eight hours of sleep. Okay? Y' all got me

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sucked into this book Thursday and Friday.

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Like, I was rolling on like five, five hours of sleep.

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Yeah. I would read like till 2:30 in the morning. I'm like, Jesus

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fucking Christ. Friday morning rolls around, I have all these meetings.

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I'm like one eyeing it. I had like three coffees. I'm doing a

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little bit of shaking going on because I had too much caffeine. And

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I'm like, you totally got me sucked in. All right,

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well, me flipping through book two, I will tell you we can't

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do that now. But in my book, and I'm assuming it's the same

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as the Kindle Chapter 25. That's all I'm going to say.

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That's where I'm going. In Exodus. Yeah. In Exodus,

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it's always yeah. I'm not going to tell you shit.

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You can't spoiler me. You can spoil everybody else, but please don't

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spoiler me. It's always about chapter 25. I don't know

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why. Chapter 25 in the first book,

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chapter 25 in the second book. I haven't gotten book three yet.

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I'm getting close, but, like, you know, as. As a

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recovering Catholic, you know, part of our. Part of

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our. Our podcast title is Podcast or Paperback

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Confessions. And so for me, this whole book was

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like 17 Hail Marys and six Our Fathers. Okay.

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And these. All these fuckers need to go to therapy. Every single one of them.

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Yeah, but they had sexual healing

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sex. I don't know, man. Like, serious

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attachment issues.

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I love that song. All right,

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what. In wrapping this all up, do we have any

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unpopular opinions of these characters? Is there anything. Any plot holes,

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unpopular opinions, shit that we could have done without?

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Okay, so I. I

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love a book

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that has the main

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character and their

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significant other opposite partner, however you want to put it.

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I love it when there is, like, this

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break that just feels like it's the

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end and there's no going

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back from this

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terrible thing. And that garage scene,

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that was it for me. And then the resound, like the. The

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silence after that, that was it for me.

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I was like, yes, I need this in my books.

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Yes.

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And then she just left me hanging. And I'm still hanging. I'm like, in chapter

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19 in book two, and I'm still hanging, waiting to what's going on.

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I feel like she's learned a lot.

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However,

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I think an unpopular opinion would be

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that if she was in her

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30s, a, they wouldn't have never

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had the crush that they had or even engaged in

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what they engaged in. But two, she would have been jaded enough to see

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some of the red flags for what they were and not just accepted

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the attention. Now, having said that,

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I also enjoy some of the roller coaster that she did go

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on, because I feel like there was some learning there.

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Book two is fucking me up so hard.

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It's fucking me up in a way that I didn't think I was gonna be

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fucked up. But, like, my unpopular opinion is that that ending

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of book one was emotionally rude.

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Like.

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Like, God damn, grow a set of balls. Pull her

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aside and talk to her in private. Don't, like, embarrass her in front

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of all your raven hood cronies. All right?

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Like, he was trying your dick. I.

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Wait, wait, are you talking about when she's in the garage?

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Yeah. In the garage? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, that wasn't

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gonna happen. They had to be brutal. They had to be brutal. I think they

459
00:29:59,390 --> 00:30:03,070
were trying to make a spectacle. So whoever went and told the

460
00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:06,710
Wolf about Cecilia would say, oh, don't worry about it. It's like, no big

461
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:10,510
deal. I feel like they knew that there was a. There was a

462
00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:11,990
leak somewhere. I feel like

463
00:30:13,910 --> 00:30:17,630
somebody's gonna tell somebody something. I'm curious. How did whoever it

464
00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:21,340
was know who Celia was? Because they

465
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:24,860
never in. Well, maybe they did. I don't remember them

466
00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:28,660
acknowledging or saying this is Roman's daughter to

467
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:32,220
anybody, but maybe she did.

468
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:36,980
Oh, yeah, she does. She tells the girl she does with the girlfriend. Maybe

469
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:40,060
that's a fucking leak. Maybe that's the snitch.

470
00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:44,420
It's really hard, not for me, not to ruin Exodus, so I'm not going to

471
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:46,980
talk more about it. But I will say the one thing that bugged me. The

472
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:50,490
plot hole, or, like, the unpopular opinion here, is

473
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:55,146
Cecilia is 19. These men are 25,

474
00:30:55,274 --> 00:30:57,930
26. The wolf is older.

475
00:30:58,810 --> 00:31:02,570
Yeah. And so that does bug me a bit, because I'm

476
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:06,170
like, could they not. Like, could Kate not have made it just a smaller

477
00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:09,810
age gap? I know they're adults. They're consenting. They can do whatever they

478
00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:12,890
want. I just think the more you read

479
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:16,530
Exodus and the finish line, the creepier

480
00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:20,290
it is. Would have worked if she was any

481
00:31:20,290 --> 00:31:24,130
older. None of it would have worked if she was any older. To

482
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:27,970
your point, G. Rex on that garage scene, I do think they needed to

483
00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:31,450
do it publicly, but it was a bit immature in how they handled it because

484
00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:35,290
they could have Handled it as a 25 or 26 year old. I do feel

485
00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:39,090
like that was a bit, like, childish. Yeah.

486
00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:42,290
But the thing is, it's like 25 and 26 year olds. I mean,

487
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:47,140
men don't become men until they're almost 30, all right? Because their

488
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:50,820
hormones are still all sorts of fucked up. Not that

489
00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:54,380
women's are any better, but at that age,

490
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,940
like, they were still fucking fucked up. And like,

491
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:02,700
that scene really pissed me off. But I think

492
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:06,860
I read more into it than I should have. Maybe just because

493
00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:10,460
of my own past experiences with men and women and

494
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,760
drama and bullshit like that. But it just. It like

495
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
fucking pissed me off. I was like, yeah, fuck you guys.

496
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Just like, go fuck yourself. Fair,

497
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Fair. I can't do this part. But I'll ask you guys, do you have any

498
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,680
predictions of what will happen?

499
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,050
Nacho's shaky breath to sort of wrap us to the

500
00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:41,730
end? Any predictions of what will happen in two, three. Verbal diarrhea.

501
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:46,850
I think that

502
00:32:48,930 --> 00:32:52,290
Sean intentionally went into

503
00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:55,570
orientation, knowing that she was going into orientation.

504
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:59,770
I think that Dom found out who she was before she

505
00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:02,290
even showed up and that there was a plan.

506
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:07,010
I think that maybe that Sean and Dom

507
00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:11,250
didn't expect to feel the feels that they did when they first

508
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:14,890
started, but that it sort of just happened. Because how

509
00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:17,170
else does it just happen in a romance novel, right?

510
00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:24,210
I'm super conflicted about dad, Roman,

511
00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:26,130
because I want him.

512
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,300
I want him to.

513
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:36,500
Because everybody has their own daddy issues, right? I want him

514
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:39,980
to engage. I want him to not be

515
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:44,460
as he's being written. I want him to be like,

516
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:48,020
protecting mother and daughter from somebody

517
00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:51,820
else. Maybe from Dom's dad? No, Dom's big

518
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:55,210
brother's dad. Because we do talk about him in this book. Mm.

519
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:58,970
Dom's big brother's dad. Because Dom's mom and dad.

520
00:33:59,930 --> 00:34:03,610
Dom and big brother share the same. Mom and Dom's.

521
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:08,010
They all emigrated. Emigrated, Immigrated, immigrated.

522
00:34:08,330 --> 00:34:10,410
Immigrated to. Immigrated

523
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:16,010
to this little small town and worked in the factory,

524
00:34:17,050 --> 00:34:20,850
right? So, I don't know, I feel like maybe there

525
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:24,610
was some protection. There's like something going back to France that's going

526
00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:28,309
to happen. I think that, yeah,

527
00:34:28,309 --> 00:34:31,989
there's a bigger picture. There's gotta be a bigger

528
00:34:31,989 --> 00:34:35,789
picture because nobody talks about fucking shit in this fucking

529
00:34:35,789 --> 00:34:39,469
book. The only thing you know is a secret. And you just know.

530
00:34:39,469 --> 00:34:42,229
There's, like so many secrets. And you know that somehow

531
00:34:45,509 --> 00:34:49,189
Roman and Cecilia's mom did the

532
00:34:49,189 --> 00:34:52,669
dirty. Maybe there was a relationship there, maybe there wasn't. I don't

533
00:34:52,669 --> 00:34:56,489
fucking know. And then I just. There's so,

534
00:34:57,689 --> 00:35:01,369
so much I'm fully on board with. My whole world

535
00:35:01,449 --> 00:35:05,169
is going to be table flipped by the end of book two. And I cannot

536
00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:08,649
wait to get to my table flip moment because if I have to throw my

537
00:35:08,649 --> 00:35:12,289
Kindle, I'm going to be real mad. What about you, T.

538
00:35:12,289 --> 00:35:14,729
Rex? What are your theories of what will happen?

539
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:20,129
I'm. I'm here further in the book, too. I'm kind of

540
00:35:20,129 --> 00:35:23,780
hoping that Cecilia grows some balls and

541
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:27,420
comes back for revenge. Like, I want

542
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:31,180
her to find her own and take back

543
00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:35,620
some of what was taken from her and prove that, you

544
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:39,020
know what, Us as women, like, we're not all

545
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:42,860
patsies, okay? Like, we do have some balls and, like, we can come

546
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:46,340
back and don't ever fucking piss us off. Kind of like me. You know what?

547
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:49,990
I'm the size of a garden gnome. Don't ever fucking piss me off,

548
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:53,550
because I will come back. I am the shape of you and I am the

549
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:57,030
shape of a garden gnome. No, I am a shape. You are the size. I

550
00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,270
am the shape. Together we make a full garden gnome. It's fine. We do.

551
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:04,270
I want her to come back and fuck these guys up.

552
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,990
Right. I want her to shake things up and

553
00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:11,550
I want her to find herself. Do you want her to be wearing

554
00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:15,990
lawn boots with lots of buckles and

555
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:19,710
stiletto heels? That's kind of like where I'm hoping we go with this,

556
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:23,550
is that she's going to be like, nut stomping with

557
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:27,150
some pokey shoes. Yeah. In her come fuck me

558
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:30,989
pumps. Yeah. I want her. I want her to decide if

559
00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:34,630
you want me to rail rail me or let me just. Yeah, I'm going to

560
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:37,190
step on your nuts. Like, I'm going to step on your nuts and make you

561
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:40,910
cry. And that's. And that's really what I want, like, because

562
00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:44,730
I can think of, like, managers in my past life that I wanted

563
00:36:44,730 --> 00:36:48,330
to fucking do that too. So I'm kind of hoping that

564
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:52,170
she comes back to that. And she's like, nut

565
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:55,850
stomping and just kind of feral. Not even

566
00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:59,530
kind of feral. Like, super feral and becoming

567
00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:03,250
her own woman. Because, you know, Roman

568
00:37:03,250 --> 00:37:07,050
fucked her. You know, Dominic fucked her, Sean fucked her.

569
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,900
The community kind of fucked her. Like,

570
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:16,580
she grew up in a really hard world. And so when she's

571
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,220
a bit older, I want her to come back with her power.

572
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:25,900
Yeah. Adding more ice to my whiskey. It's gotten warm and that

573
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,380
shit's disgusting. Hot dang.

574
00:37:30,260 --> 00:37:33,220
I can't wait for y' all to get through it all. I guess.

575
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:36,260
Sneak peek. It Is

576
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:42,300
like reading book one to prep for this. I do see

577
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,500
signs that perhaps. And again, this is like first person

578
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,140
point of view, so it could be very unreliable. But there are

579
00:37:50,140 --> 00:37:53,900
mentions of her having her own plan.

580
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:58,580
And so again, flock starts with her

581
00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:01,980
returning after the drama. Right. So it is very

582
00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:04,660
curious. I think I want to, like, tickle that part of my brain a little

583
00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:07,420
bit more to see if, like, after I read the third book again,

584
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,280
does it line up that perhaps she had a

585
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000
secret of her own. I'll find that scene again. And I'm going to find the

586
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,800
fucking words that describe

587
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,640
the thing that they're on. Because I'm like,

588
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,520
fucked up about it. I really need to know.

589
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,360
My brain gets stuck on weird shit. Sorry, same sorry,

590
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,080
not sorry, same Anyways, because they didn't swim

591
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,800
out to the fucking thing. What a way to let everybody. Are we talking about

592
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,600
the. The raft? The dock? Yeah. Yeah. I. That's why I'm like.

593
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,600
I just. What was it? You know, like.

594
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200
And then they're like in a valley and then there's mountains

595
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,400
or hills or something. I'm like, how do they get there? Who's pictures.

596
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Who's taking pictures of this? Like, this feels like a setup to me.

597
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Mm. That whole thing felt set up to me.

598
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,840
That's interesting. And as I read more into the book, I'm like,

599
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
she's getting sucked in deeper and deeper and deeper.

600
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,640
Yeah, but she has. She has. Because she's so young, she

601
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,400
has zero fucking clue that she's getting sucked in until it's

602
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,160
too late. Yeah. Okay. I mean, but.

603
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,930
Okay. Would I know? I don't know if I would know. I think

604
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:30,770
I would just be following my dick feel

605
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:34,410
like that's like the perfect underline. I would be following my dick.

606
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:41,770
And that's this episode of Paperback Confessions.

607
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:44,970
I'm so sorry. No, I think that's perfect.

608
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:49,770
It's 100% perfect. She's just been following my dick. I don't know that I would

609
00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:53,410
have been paying attention. No. Yeah, but she doesn't listen to her friends

610
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:57,130
either. I don't know. She barely tells her friends. Well, eventually.

611
00:39:57,130 --> 00:40:00,610
Well, it gets less and less. Towards the further end of the book, you go

612
00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:04,490
and you're just like, you can't. She has.

613
00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:07,970
She was distracted. But you know what? At that age, we were all.

614
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:12,530
We were all, like, into that, right? Like, we're all trying to

615
00:40:12,530 --> 00:40:16,290
find our chosen family, Trying to find our way in the world. Trying

616
00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:19,890
to get a hold of our fucking fucked up hormones because

617
00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:23,010
making all the mistakes, making all the wrong decisions.

618
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:28,310
And the thing with Cecilia is she doesn't have somebody to tell

619
00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:31,430
her, you shouldn't be doing this. Right.

620
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:35,670
Like, I think for all of us, we probably had somebody

621
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:39,310
in our life be like, hey, maybe this isn't the

622
00:40:39,310 --> 00:40:43,110
best decision you could ever make in your world. Not that we would listen.

623
00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:46,950
Not that we would listen, but however we had the. We had somebody.

624
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:50,520
Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah, she doesn't, huh?

625
00:40:51,790 --> 00:40:55,230
Just solo dolo thinking with her dick.

626
00:40:55,390 --> 00:40:59,150
Yeah. And you know, Cecilia's not stupid. She's just young,

627
00:40:59,230 --> 00:41:02,830
lonely and under informed. And lonely is the worst.

628
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:07,150
Yeah, she was lonely and was trying to find her

629
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:10,750
place. And the fucked up thing about it is she

630
00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:13,470
got screwed over by these men.

631
00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:18,700
I love that y' all have sympathy for her. I do. I love it. I

632
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:22,340
love it. Really? You love it? Yeah.

633
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:25,780
Because I guess I want to tender. What's your feelings about

634
00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:29,140
Celia like? I feel like you kind of drove the bus for us and I

635
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:32,500
just. Verbal diarrhea. But I. I do think.

636
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,940
And this might be more of a me thing, right? Maybe not the character, but

637
00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:40,780
my, my interpretation of a lot

638
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:44,620
of what she talks about or like her arguments or her struggles or

639
00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:48,260
what's pissing her off or you know, you know, is very like

640
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:51,940
victim. Like, oh, like, I don't know, she's very

641
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:55,660
like. Needs the, the sympathy. Like it's. It's like trying

642
00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:59,380
to pull the sympathy. But. But you made these

643
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:02,340
choices. Like, like you, you chose

644
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:07,220
to go to that party and you chose to

645
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:10,820
try to make a relationship with John. You chose

646
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:14,580
to fuck them both. Like everything is a choice. I don't.

647
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:19,700
And maybe that's more of a me thing because I don't think they manipulated her

648
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:23,300
into it. I think she chose to do it.

649
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:27,860
You know, I think there's all aspects here. I think

650
00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:31,700
yes, there was some choice involved, but I also think that there

651
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,980
was some leading that

652
00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:39,660
she didn't know was happening or maybe she did and it's just

653
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:43,260
not written on the page. And I think that there was

654
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:44,060
some

655
00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:50,620
lonely, some attention

656
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:55,060
needing and that, that, that those things were filling

657
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:58,900
for her. Lonely is a bitch. And I think that's the part

658
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,060
I didn't pick up was that yeah, she is alone.

659
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:07,260
I didn't even. Didn't register in this house

660
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:10,900
all by herself. And she's been living with her mom her whole life who's. She's

661
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:14,460
basically been taken care of. Yeah. And then it's like empty nest

662
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:18,140
syndrome, but for a 19 year old, I guess.

663
00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:22,220
But like that dynamic changes anyways. We could go on and on and on.

664
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:26,420
Shut me up. Y' all gotta. We'll

665
00:43:26,420 --> 00:43:30,260
meet again. Until next time. Until next time. But I'm gonna,

666
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:33,930
I'm gonna rate this book as a. A four.

667
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:37,370
Five on my scale. Just because of the

668
00:43:37,610 --> 00:43:40,490
sexual scenes. Like it's worth the read,

669
00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:44,410
but. Yeah, okay. Oh, yeah, it's definitely worth the read,

670
00:43:45,370 --> 00:43:48,930
but is it Spicy for a 4.5? I like,

671
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:52,170
I like you being our flagship

672
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:55,850
person because I feel like you are going to be the one that's going to

673
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:59,050
go on the biggest roller coaster, spice ride in this situation.

674
00:43:59,740 --> 00:44:03,260
Yeah. And so I feel like you're

675
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:07,820
choosing the rating. The spice

676
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:11,620
rating is a great idea because I would put

677
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:15,260
it as like a two and a half or three same.

678
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:19,300
Not because it's a crap book, because it's a great book. But the sex scenes,

679
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,460
if you're just going by sex scenes, that's how I'm going by. It's the sex

680
00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:26,190
scenes, everything else. Like I need

681
00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:29,950
a little bit more an emotionally involved

682
00:44:29,950 --> 00:44:33,630
character. Does that make sense? Like I need somebody that kind

683
00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:37,430
of knows who she is. 19 year old

684
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:41,270
sex is horrifying. Okay. Because it's terrible.

685
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:45,590
Like it's the new. The newness that everything that is

686
00:44:45,590 --> 00:44:49,430
wrong with sex. But for me, for just the spice, the

687
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:52,770
spicy level, like, the sex scenes were hot.

688
00:44:53,810 --> 00:44:56,930
They were definitely hot. Yep. I agree.

689
00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:02,210
All right. I love you guys so hard. Love you too, man.

690
00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:05,970
Love you too, man. Have a great week. Have a great week.

691
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See you next. See you next time. What are you doing to that microphone? Until

692
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next time. Oh,

693
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there she is with her spicy book voice. Simply

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orgasmed in my ears. That.